Thread overview
wmemchar for unix
Aug 27, 2013
monarch_dodra
Aug 27, 2013
Sean Kelly
Aug 27, 2013
monarch_dodra
Aug 27, 2013
H. S. Teoh
Aug 27, 2013
monarch_dodra
Aug 27, 2013
Dmitry Olshansky
Aug 27, 2013
H. S. Teoh
Aug 27, 2013
Dmitry Olshansky
August 27, 2013
For performance reasons, I need a "w" version of memchr.

C defines wmemchr as:
wchar_t * wmemchr ( const wchar_t *, wchar_t, size_t );

Unfortunatly, on unix, "wchar_t" is defined a *4* bytes long,
making wmemchr, effectivelly, "dmemchr".

Are there any "2 byte" alternatives for wmemchr on unix?
August 27, 2013
On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:57 PM, monarch_dodra <monarchdodra@gmail.com> wrote:

> For performance reasons, I need a "w" version of memchr.
> 
> C defines wmemchr as:
> wchar_t * wmemchr ( const wchar_t *, wchar_t, size_t );
> 
> Unfortunatly, on unix, "wchar_t" is defined a *4* bytes long, making wmemchr, effectivelly, "dmemchr".
> 
> Are there any "2 byte" alternatives for wmemchr on unix?

Why not cast the array to ushort[] and do a find()?  Or is that too slow as well?
August 27, 2013
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:37:02AM -0700, Sean Kelly wrote:
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:57 PM, monarch_dodra <monarchdodra@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > For performance reasons, I need a "w" version of memchr.
> > 
> > C defines wmemchr as:
> > wchar_t * wmemchr ( const wchar_t *, wchar_t, size_t );
> > 
> > Unfortunatly, on unix, "wchar_t" is defined a *4* bytes long, making wmemchr, effectivelly, "dmemchr".
> > 
> > Are there any "2 byte" alternatives for wmemchr on unix?
> 
> Why not cast the array to ushort[] and do a find()?  Or is that too
> slow as well?

Optimized searches of this kind ideally translate to the various rep* instructions on x86. I'm not sure if dmd does that optimization. If you really feel inclined, you could do static if (X86) and throw in an asm block (but that would break purity, @safety, etc., so probably not a good idea).

You *might* be able to coax GDC (or LDC) to do loop unrolling and/or substitution with rep* instructions with just plain D code, though. Can't really say without trying it out.


T

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August 27, 2013
On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 at 14:37:14 UTC, Sean Kelly wrote:
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:57 PM, monarch_dodra <monarchdodra@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For performance reasons, I need a "w" version of memchr.
>> 
>> C defines wmemchr as:
>> wchar_t * wmemchr ( const wchar_t *, wchar_t, size_t );
>> 
>> Unfortunatly, on unix, "wchar_t" is defined a *4* bytes long,
>> making wmemchr, effectivelly, "dmemchr".
>> 
>> Are there any "2 byte" alternatives for wmemchr on unix?
>
> Why not cast the array to ushort[] and do a find()?  Or is that too slow as well?

Because it's specifically to speed up find's implementation ^^
August 27, 2013
On Tuesday, 27 August 2013 at 14:43:10 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:37:02AM -0700, Sean Kelly wrote:
>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:57 PM, monarch_dodra <monarchdodra@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > For performance reasons, I need a "w" version of memchr.
>> > 
>> > C defines wmemchr as:
>> > wchar_t * wmemchr ( const wchar_t *, wchar_t, size_t );
>> > 
>> > Unfortunatly, on unix, "wchar_t" is defined a *4* bytes long,
>> > making wmemchr, effectivelly, "dmemchr".
>> > 
>> > Are there any "2 byte" alternatives for wmemchr on unix?
>> 
>> Why not cast the array to ushort[] and do a find()?  Or is that too
>> slow as well?
>
> Optimized searches of this kind ideally translate to the various rep*
> instructions on x86. I'm not sure if dmd does that optimization. If you
> really feel inclined, you could do static if (X86) and throw in an asm
> block (but that would break purity, @safety, etc., so probably not a
> good idea).
>
> You *might* be able to coax GDC (or LDC) to do loop unrolling and/or
> substitution with rep* instructions with just plain D code, though.
> Can't really say without trying it out.
>
>
> T

Hum... I think that is too complicated for what I'm trying to do. I don't know assembly enough. Ideally, I was hoping for a pre-existing C function to do the work for me :)

For now, I can settle for a simple:
version (windows)
    //use fast wmemchr
else
    //use standard code

But It feels weird, in the sense that there is no reason for "2byte" search to be more specific to windows than for unix...
August 27, 2013
27-Aug-2013 18:41, H. S. Teoh пишет:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:37:02AM -0700, Sean Kelly wrote:
>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:57 PM, monarch_dodra <monarchdodra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For performance reasons, I need a "w" version of memchr.
>>>
>>> C defines wmemchr as:
>>> wchar_t * wmemchr ( const wchar_t *, wchar_t, size_t );
>>>
>>> Unfortunatly, on unix, "wchar_t" is defined a *4* bytes long,
>>> making wmemchr, effectivelly, "dmemchr".
>>>
>>> Are there any "2 byte" alternatives for wmemchr on unix?
>>
>> Why not cast the array to ushort[] and do a find()?  Or is that too
>> slow as well?
>
> Optimized searches of this kind ideally translate to the various rep*
> instructions on x86.

Rather a loop with XMM moves. What's best though is always a moving target.

> I'm not sure if dmd does that optimization. If you
> really feel inclined, you could do static if (X86) and throw in an asm
> block (but that would break purity, @safety, etc., so probably not a
> good idea).
>

It would be awesome to have pure D analogs for memchr, memcpy and its ilk that won't be so limiting (as in types used) but would guarantee top performance.

-- 
Dmitry Olshansky
August 27, 2013
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:18:50PM +0400, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
> 27-Aug-2013 18:41, H. S. Teoh пишет:
> >On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 07:37:02AM -0700, Sean Kelly wrote:
> >>On Aug 26, 2013, at 11:57 PM, monarch_dodra <monarchdodra@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>For performance reasons, I need a "w" version of memchr.
> >>>
> >>>C defines wmemchr as:
> >>>wchar_t * wmemchr ( const wchar_t *, wchar_t, size_t );
> >>>
> >>>Unfortunatly, on unix, "wchar_t" is defined a *4* bytes long, making wmemchr, effectivelly, "dmemchr".
> >>>
> >>>Are there any "2 byte" alternatives for wmemchr on unix?
> >>
> >>Why not cast the array to ushort[] and do a find()?  Or is that too
> >>slow as well?
> >
> >Optimized searches of this kind ideally translate to the various rep* instructions on x86.
> 
> Rather a loop with XMM moves. What's best though is always a moving target.
> 
> >I'm not sure if dmd does that optimization. If you really feel
> >inclined, you could do static if (X86) and throw in an asm block (but
> >that would break purity, @safety, etc., so probably not a good idea).
> >
> 
> It would be awesome to have pure D analogs for memchr, memcpy and its ilk that won't be so limiting (as in types used) but would guarantee top performance.
[...]

Those would have to be compiler intrinsics, since they are CPU-dependent optimizations. Plus they could improve dmd code generation. :)


T

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August 27, 2013
27-Aug-2013 23:31, H. S. Teoh пишет:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 11:18:50PM +0400, Dmitry Olshansky wrote:
>> 27-Aug-2013 18:41, H. S. Teoh пишет:
[snip]
>>
>>> I'm not sure if dmd does that optimization. If you really feel
>>> inclined, you could do static if (X86) and throw in an asm block (but
>>> that would break purity, @safety, etc., so probably not a good idea).
>>>
>>
>> It would be awesome to have pure D analogs for memchr, memcpy and its
>> ilk that won't be so limiting (as in types used) but would guarantee
>> top performance.
> [...]
>
> Those would have to be compiler intrinsics, since they are CPU-dependent
> optimizations. Plus they could improve dmd code generation. :)

It would be golden to finally see a time where compilers have D-specific intrinsics! :)


-- 
Dmitry Olshansky