Start of dmd 2.064 beta program (page 12)

On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:39:34 UTC, dennis luehring wrote: > Am 31.10.2013 15:29, schrieb eles: >> On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:28:05 UTC, dennis luehring >> wrote: >>> 3. "My boss is right: is just a toy pretending to be serious" - >>> maybe, maybe not - but not because of your stupid file >>> extension comments >> >> It adds. Tell to my boss about that extensions and he will be >> grateful for you providing him ONE MORE REASON to laugh. At me. > > question: why are you using D if OH, I forgot to add: I HAAAAAAAAAAATE PYTHON. I do not care if it works. Assembler works! I hate it! I like D (the language, not the compiler ;). I *want* to use D. Why don't *you* use ASM? Go and write in machine code! IT WORKS!

Am 31.10.2013 15:45, schrieb eles: > On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:39:34 UTC, dennis luehring > wrote: >> Am 31.10.2013 15:29, schrieb eles: >>> On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:28:05 UTC, dennis luehring >>> wrote: >>>> 3. "My boss is right: is just a toy pretending to be serious" >> >> better try to find a more experienced, serious Boss > > Do you offer yourself for his job? > > Maybe because I don't want to have a code base written in several > languages? > > And seriously, about your former argument about the importance of > the extension in being serious or not: accepting arbitrary > extension was the reason for C++ doom? just 0,001% of it - but a clear definition is always bettern then a floaty like "you should use .d as extension"

October 31, 2013

Re: Start of dmd 2.064 beta program

Posted by Craig Dillabaugh
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Craig Dillabaugh

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On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:29:34 UTC, eles wrote:
> On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:28:05 UTC, dennis luehring wrote:
>> 3. "My boss is right: is just a toy pretending to be serious" - maybe, maybe not - but not because of your stupid file extension comments
>
> It adds. Tell to my boss about that extensions and he will be grateful for you providing him ONE MORE REASON to laugh. At me.

In my experience, when it comes to software development, bosses
tend to have no clue what they are talking about anyway :o)  So I
would just laugh back at him/her (might keep that to myself
though, depending on how secure I feel my job is).

This seems like a bit of bikeshedding issue.  You may have a
strong preference for one option, apparently others feel
differently.  Is it really that big an issue?  I don't think the
quality of a language depends on its file naming conventions.  I
don't like the way Python uses whitespace .. but I still like the
language.

I agree the compiler shouldn't be adding anything to the supplied
names, however if I understand the issue I see no real problem
with requiring that D source files/scripts end with a .d
extension.

Finally, you've said a few times that D has crappy tooling.  I am
not sure how this file naming stuff has anything to do with that
(other than superficial ways).

On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:54:17 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: clip > > This seems like a bit of bikeshedding issue. You may have a > strong preference for one option, apparently others feel > differently. Is it really that big an issue? I don't think the > quality of a language depends on its file naming conventions. I > don't like the way Python uses whitespace .. but I still like the > language. clip > Finally, you've said a few times that D has crappy tooling. I am > not sure how this file naming stuff has anything to do with that > (other than superficial ways). eles, seeing your post above, I guess my use of Python to justify my answer turns out to a bad choice on my part :o)

On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:54:17 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: > On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:29:34 UTC, eles wrote: >> On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:28:05 UTC, dennis luehring wrote: > Finally, you've said a few times that D has crappy tooling. I am > not sure how this file naming stuff has anything to do with that > (other than superficial ways). Go to that bug report, read the very first message that Walter used to open the bug report, see about yourself, then come back here and tell me that the .d thing does not matter. It is the *very* reason for this debate. As to quote Walter's own understanding of the problem (unfortunately, the solution he proposed is bad): "Thanks for the clear explanation. It makes a lot of sense.". Now, if you disagree with that, you disagree with Walter.

On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:57:43 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh wrote: > On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:54:17 UTC, Craig Dillabaugh > eles, seeing your post above, I guess my use of Python to justify > my answer turns out to a bad choice on my part :o) That's true. I hate using it, especially because I am still force to use it when writing tests because of its py.test module. I simply don't like it. I want pointers in my code.

On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:57:15 UTC, dennis luehring wrote: > Am 31.10.2013 15:45, schrieb eles: >> On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:39:34 UTC, dennis luehring >> wrote: >>> Am 31.10.2013 15:29, schrieb eles: >>>> On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:28:05 UTC, dennis luehring >>>> wrote: >>>>> 3. "My boss is right: is just a toy pretending to be serious" >>> >>> better try to find a more experienced, serious Boss >> >> Do you offer yourself for his job? > > why should i? Then don't tell me what I should feel to do about my job. 'Cause you don't deserve other answer than "why should I"?

Am 31.10.2013 16:01, schrieb eles: > On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:57:15 UTC, dennis luehring > wrote: >> Am 31.10.2013 15:45, schrieb eles: >>> On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:39:34 UTC, dennis luehring >>> wrote: >>>> Am 31.10.2013 15:29, schrieb eles: >>>>> On Thursday, 31 October 2013 at 14:28:05 UTC, dennis luehring >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> 3. "My boss is right: is just a toy pretending to be >>>>>> serious" >>>> >>>> better try to find a more experienced, serious Boss >>> >>> Do you offer yourself for his job? >> >> why should i? > > Then don't tell me what I should feel to do about my job. > > 'Cause you don't deserve other answer than "why should I"? > i don't see any chance/strategy to get D in your current development - so if you don't want to code Python ("I WANT pointers") anymore - try to find a job where you can write C/C++ or D - or else your need (and real hard interest to get your Boss in the Boart) for D seems to be not big enough - i would quit my job very fast if someone forces me to write Python code most of the time - thats all

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