Hi Folks,

Through my work on DMD, I have found that it is useful to look at crash bugs/segfaults.
To identify structurally weak areas of DMD.

So please, next time you face a bug which crashes dmd, please fell free to send me a mail to bugs@bugstefan.de

I really appreciate it.

In the future, I will host a service which will reduce examples automatically using dustmite.

For now however the server just accepts email.
And hosts a dummy site.

Cheers,
Stefan

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:12:42PM +0000, Stefan Koch via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Through my work on DMD, I have found that it is useful to look at
> crash bugs/segfaults.
> To identify structurally weak areas of DMD.
> 
> So please, next time you face a bug which crashes dmd, please fell free to send me a mail to bugs@bugstefan.de
[...]

Sure, but couldn't it just be reported to bugzilla?  You can search for 'ice' on bugzilla to get the list:

	https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=ice&list_id=232308


T

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On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 10:35:46AM -0700, H. S. Teoh wrote: [...]
> 	https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=ice&list_id=232308

Better search criteria:

	https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&keywords=ice&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=232309&query_format=advanced


T

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On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 at 17:35:46 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:12:42PM +0000, Stefan Koch via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> Through my work on DMD, I have found that it is useful to look at
>> crash bugs/segfaults.
>> To identify structurally weak areas of DMD.
>> 
>> So please, next time you face a bug which crashes dmd, please fell free to send me a mail to bugs@bugstefan.de
> [...]
>
> Sure, but couldn't it just be reported to bugzilla?  You can search for 'ice' on bugzilla to get the list:
>
> 	https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=ice&list_id=232308
>
>
> T

Yes I could.
And I probably should do that and import bugs once my service is running.

I don't go through bugzilla that frequently,
and someone who is willing to drop me an email,
at least still follows up on things.

whereas with older bugzilla issues you often get responses very late.

On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 at 18:36:49 UTC, Stefan Koch wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 at 17:35:46 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:12:42PM +0000, Stefan Koch via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>> [...]
>> [...]
>>
>> Sure, but couldn't it just be reported to bugzilla?  You can search for 'ice' on bugzilla to get the list:
>>
>> 	https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=ice&list_id=232308
>>
>>
>> T
>
> Yes I could.
> And I probably should do that and import bugs once my service is running.
>
> I don't go through bugzilla that frequently,
> and someone who is willing to drop me an email,
> at least still follows up on things.
>
> whereas with older bugzilla issues you often get responses very late.

I absolutely appreciate the effort but I really don’t see how decentralizing this makes any sense...

On 7/15/2020 11:36 AM, Stefan Koch wrote:
> [...]

I applaud your efforts to find and fix these problems. The whole point of bugzilla is to collect and organize information about bugs, causes, and fixes. I myself used to keep a "bug list" email folder, and I can vouch that it is inefficient and ineffective.

For example, it prevents other people from offering help and ideas on the problems (many, many solutions were found this way). It prevents people from noticing related problems in bugzilla, and the combination can give clues to the solution.

And on and on.

As for accessing the list conveniently, my "home page" is a page I wrote myself, and is filled with links to sites I access frequently. Just add:

    <a href="https://issues.dlang.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=ice&list_id=232308">ICE bugs</a>

and you're good to go.

(Although I ragged a bit on email folder bug lists, justifiably, what that replaced was far worse. A pile of paper notes and floppy disks that people would physically mail to me. Awful!)

On 17/07/2020 2:13 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
> (Although I ragged a bit on email folder bug lists, justifiably, what that replaced was far worse. A pile of paper notes and floppy disks that people would physically mail to me. Awful!)

Somebody like LGR would love to do a video if you got any of that stuff around still!

On 7/16/2020 7:18 PM, rikki cattermole wrote:
> On 17/07/2020 2:13 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> (Although I ragged a bit on email folder bug lists, justifiably, what that replaced was far worse. A pile of paper notes and floppy disks that people would physically mail to me. Awful!)
> 
> Somebody like LGR would love to do a video if you got any of that stuff around still!

Oh, I might have a couple examples left somewhere :-)

Who is LGR?

On 17/07/2020 3:51 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 7/16/2020 7:18 PM, rikki cattermole wrote:
>> On 17/07/2020 2:13 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> (Although I ragged a bit on email folder bug lists, justifiably, what that replaced was far worse. A pile of paper notes and floppy disks that people would physically mail to me. Awful!)
>>
>> Somebody like LGR would love to do a video if you got any of that stuff around still!
> 
> Oh, I might have a couple examples left somewhere :-)
> 
> Who is LGR?

I'll ping you two on Twitter.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLx053rWZxCiYWsBETgdKrQ

On Friday, 17 July 2020 at 02:13:16 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 7/15/2020 11:36 AM, Stefan Koch wrote:
>> [...]
>
> (Although I ragged a bit on email folder bug lists, justifiably, what that replaced was far worse. A pile of paper notes and floppy disks that people would physically mail to me. Awful!)

The negative is, I won't find a fixed compiler in my inbox anymore, the day after I reported a bug by email to you...

Sometimes I miss those days.