On 2015-06-05 14:57, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

> 1. People receiving messages through NNTP/mailing lists will not see the
> formatted Markdown. Although Markdown's goal is to be readable in its
> plain text source code, it still allows many situations in which the
> source is misleading or difficult to understand. For example, special
> characters need to be escaped by a backslash, which can create confusion
> in the presence of other special characters. (Are they part of the D
> syntax the user is describing, or something else?) Some syntax such as
> tables or images can also be not very readable in source form.

Some people are already sending something that looks like Markdown, i.e. ``` for code blocks. Even your post can be rendered as Markdown.

> 2. How should we render messages sent by NNTP/mailing-list users? Do we
> just assume that they're sending Markdown and render it as such? This
> can cause the messages to appear broken to forum users. Or do we only
> render Markdown if the post was sent from the forum? This means that
> when NNTP/ML users quote forum users' text it will be shown as plain text.
>
> 3. There is no unified standard for Markdown. The original format is not
> used on major sites today - StackOverflow and GitHub extend the format,
> and users will expect Markdown with those extensions.

That standard would be the one GibHub uses.

> 5. You can't edit posts once sent. This means that if you accidentally
> messed up the formatting (e.g. you pasted code without padding it with
> whitespace or surrounding it in ```...``` blocks), you can't go back and
> edit it now.

A preview button/view would (hopefully) solve that.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

On 2015-06-04 17:04, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> http://beta.forum.dlang.org/
>
> Many major and minor improvements.
>
> Some major ones:
>
> - dlang.org theme, fully responsive and mobile-friendly
> - keyboard navigation in all views
> - automatically saved post drafts
> - get notified of new posts and replies with subscriptions
> - full text search
> - by persistent request, a new view mode (vertical-split)
> - post to mailing lists
> - even faster, believe it or not.
>
> This update is the sum of 256 commits over 34 days of development.

Unfortunately I'm a bit disappointed. I mostly use the forum on my phone and to me it's barley any improvement at all. The problem I see are:

* The font is too small in portrait mode. It's good in landscape mode

* The two (index) and three columns (viewing a group) views don't really work. They truncate too much of the text. Perhaps using a different layout that is more suitable for phones could be used

* All links except that ones inline in a post is too small. The breadcrumbs, settings, help and the pager. It's mostly the pager that is important

* It looks like the site decreases the font size when the window gets more narrow, is that really necessary? Perhaps that's why I think the font size is too small in portrait mode

* Still no pager on top :( . This is not just on the phone

* I don't think it's necessary on a desktop size that page stretches out and uses the complete width. I think most responsive site has some form of max width on the page. At some point it's not necessary to increase the width any more, it just adds unnecessary whitespace

The combination of a too small font size a too small pager is why I'm so disappointed. If I need to zoom on a responsive site the whole responsiveness has failed

On the plus side, the links inline in the posts seem to be properly wrapped now and doesn't break the layout :)

I'm using an iPhone 6, the smaller one.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

Before I forget: avatar photo covers text. http://imgur.com/8r679dX -- Andrei

On Saturday, 6 June 2015 at 16:02:23 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Before I forget: avatar photo covers text. http://imgur.com/8r679dX -- Andrei

I think it's otherwise! :)

Matheus.

On Thursday, 4 June 2015 at 15:04:05 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> http://beta.forum.dlang.org/
>
> Many major and minor improvements.
>
> Some major ones:
>
> - dlang.org theme, fully responsive and mobile-friendly
> - keyboard navigation in all views
> - automatically saved post drafts
> - get notified of new posts and replies with subscriptions
> - full text search
> - by persistent request, a new view mode (vertical-split)
> - post to mailing lists
> - even faster, believe it or not.
>
> This update is the sum of 256 commits over 34 days of development.

Any chance of transferring the viewed status (i.e. bold for unread) of posts over from the old version?

On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 10:41:19 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> On Thursday, 4 June 2015 at 15:04:05 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> http://beta.forum.dlang.org/
>>
>> Many major and minor improvements.
>>
>> Some major ones:
>>
>> - dlang.org theme, fully responsive and mobile-friendly
>> - keyboard navigation in all views
>> - automatically saved post drafts
>> - get notified of new posts and replies with subscriptions
>> - full text search
>> - by persistent request, a new view mode (vertical-split)
>> - post to mailing lists
>> - even faster, believe it or not.
>>
>> This update is the sum of 256 commits over 34 days of development.
>
> Any chance of transferring the viewed status (i.e. bold for unread) of posts over from the old version?

That is one reason why i asked about a "mark as read" functionality of entire threads..

On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 10:41:19 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> Any chance of transferring the viewed status (i.e. bold for unread) of posts over from the old version?

No, as the post indices are different. But they will be preserved when forum.dlang.org is updated.

> On Friday, 5 June 2015 at 01:45:58 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>>> It may be that we have lost potential participants because they
>>> clicked away from the page within seconds of realising there was no
>>> oauth (I definitely would).
>>
>> It's doable but just seems a little overkill to me. Every time I
>> looked into implementing OAuth I was swamped by how overly complicated
>> it was (or maybe I just never found a succint-enough description).
>
> AFAIK, Nick wanted to write OAuth support library in D.

That's kind of an "eventual" todo item for the InstaUser library (currently "DAuth", but changing the name though to avoid confusion with OAuth). There's other higher-priority think I intend to do on the lib first. So if anyone want to beat to it, feel free. :)

On Friday, 5 June 2015 at 20:54:50 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>
> The reply count number is now a "secret" link to the thread.

Awesome. :) This combined with the other beta changes, and I think the new beta forum is a very nice improvement over the current one, even though the 0 reply link was my only real issue with the current one.

There is no possibility, as before to stretch the field for the bottom right corner:
http://i.imgur.com/IEVjs6v.png