John Colvin, el  8 de July a las 12:38 me escribiste:
> >>I prefer this one :p http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/echo-msg.html
> >>
> >>From the opengroup spec:
> >>"If the first operand is -n, or if any of the operands contain a
> >><backslash> character, the results are implementation-defined."
> >>
> >>Ah...specifications...
> >>
> >>
> >>I'm gonna stick with normal linux implementation, as described
> >>here:
> >>http://linux.die.net/man/1/echo
> >
> >That's not Linux, that's GNU coreutils :)
> 
> Sue me :p    Strangely, it's in direct contradiction with the GNU coreutils documentation, as hosted on the GNU site.

You mean the joke one, or the real one? :P

It seems to be the same as the real one (that I found at least), is just
they are worded differently because one is in manpage format and the
other one in info/html/manual format.
http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/echo-invocation.html

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On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 16:08:17 UTC, Leandro Lucarella wrote:
> John Colvin, el  8 de July a las 12:38 me escribiste:
>> >>I prefer this one :p http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/echo-msg.html
>> >>
>> >>From the opengroup spec:
>> >>"If the first operand is -n, or if any of the operands contain a
>> >><backslash> character, the results are implementation-defined."
>> >>
>> >>Ah...specifications...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I'm gonna stick with normal linux implementation, as described
>> >>here:
>> >>http://linux.die.net/man/1/echo
>> >
>> >That's not Linux, that's GNU coreutils :)
>> 
>> Sue me :p    Strangely, it's in direct contradiction with the GNU
>> coreutils documentation, as hosted on the GNU site.
>
> You mean the joke one, or the real one? :P
>
> It seems to be the same as the real one (that I found at least), is just
> they are worded differently because one is in manpage format and the
> other one in info/html/manual format.
> http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/echo-invocation.html

From the gnu page you just linked: "the normally-special argument ‘--’ has no special meaning and is treated like any other string."

From http://linux.die.net/man/1/echo:
"--help
display this help and exit
--version
output version information and exit"

my terminals builtin echo seems to be compliant with the gnu site, but the seperate executable in /bin is the same as the linux.die.net one, whilst claiming on use of --version to be from gnu coreutils!!

On Sunday, 7 July 2013 at 15:00:43 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> I had some free time so I decided I should start a simple blog about D, implementing some unix utilities. I've (unsurprisingly) started with echo.
>
> http://foreach-hour-life.blogspot.co.uk/
>
> It's nothing ground-breaking, but every little helps :)

That's interesting...but I'm not a big fan of collecting hundreds
of links...I think that someone should create something like
http://www.delphifeeds.com/ but for D...

On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 17:39:46 UTC, Baz wrote:
> On Sunday, 7 July 2013 at 15:00:43 UTC,
> That's interesting...but I'm not a big fan of collecting hundreds
> of links...I think that someone should create something like
> http://www.delphifeeds.com/ but for D...


blogs.dlang.org ... ?

There'd need to be some way of filtering upstreams by topic. I blog about D, but not _just_ about D.

On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 17:39:46 UTC, Baz wrote:
> On Sunday, 7 July 2013 at 15:00:43 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
>> I had some free time so I decided I should start a simple blog about D, implementing some unix utilities. I've (unsurprisingly) started with echo.
>>
>> http://foreach-hour-life.blogspot.co.uk/
>>
>> It's nothing ground-breaking, but every little helps :)
>
> That's interesting...but I'm not a big fan of collecting hundreds
> of links...I think that someone should create something like
> http://www.delphifeeds.com/ but for D...

Planet D?
http://planet.dsource.org/

On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 17:53:45 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> There'd need to be some way of filtering upstreams by topic. I blog about D, but not _just_ about D.

http://planet.dsource.org has already been mentioned and it does filter by tags.

On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 17:53:45 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 17:39:46 UTC, Baz wrote:
>> On Sunday, 7 July 2013 at 15:00:43 UTC,
>> That's interesting...but I'm not a big fan of collecting hundreds
>> of links...I think that someone should create something like
>> http://www.delphifeeds.com/ but for D...
>
>
> blogs.dlang.org ... ?
>
> There'd need to be some way of filtering upstreams by topic. I blog about D, but not _just_ about D.

You're wrong, there's a real need for promoting D worldwide.
Just for example, this mainstream (french) programming site has (had?) a forum for D which is not updated or used at all: http://www.developpez.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=fadd36f8505c59f0714e4e24a0c5a195&f=1180

Fedora a few years ago has proposed the D language as a part of their very "extremist open source ashole repository". The fact is that D is totally missing from their dev packages ("sudo yum i want some only opensource douche stuff even if I have to type make make install every two minutes"). And If you setup dmd manually they'll propose you to setup ldc, which is not possible due to some broken package dependencies...

Blogs are usefull, D can be used in many editors and compiled in two portables IDE (Xamarin and Geany) and in another mainstream win-only-IDE(VS)...

On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 18:54:30 UTC, Baz wrote:
> Fedora a few years ago has proposed the D language as a part of their very "extremist open source ashole repository". The fact is that D is totally missing from their dev packages ("sudo yum i want some only opensource douche stuff even if I have to type make make install every two minutes"). And If you setup dmd manually they'll propose you to setup ldc, which is not possible due to some broken package dependencies...

Where did that come from? I never knew there was such anger against strict open-source movements, but recently I've been rudely awakened.

I use fedora for everything I do with D. I have dmd, ldc and gdc all set up, no significant problems. I also make use of yum a great deal, and generally find everything I need with little to no trouble, no make involved. Sure, dmd isn't gonna go in the official repositories, but rpmfusion exists for a reason...

On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 18:54:30 UTC, Baz wrote:
> You're wrong, there's a real need for promoting D worldwide.

Did I say otherwise? I am not sure you are reacting to what I actually wrote.

> Just for example, this mainstream (french) programming site has (had?) a forum for D which is not updated or used at all: http://www.developpez.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=fadd36f8505c59f0714e4e24a0c5a195&f=1180

That's a shame.

> Fedora a few years ago has proposed the D language as a part of their very "extremist open source ashole repository". The fact is that D is totally missing from their dev packages ("sudo yum i want some only opensource douche stuff even if I have to type make make install every two minutes"). And If you setup dmd manually they'll propose you to setup ldc, which is not possible due to some broken package dependencies...

I don't understand your visceral hostility here. No one is excluding D on licensing grounds -- there might be some distros that would prefer not to include DMD, but they'd be happy to include GDC and/or LDC.

If D compilers are missing from a distro, or have broken dependencies, it's because no one is stepping up to take responsibility for packaging.

> Blogs are usefull, D can be used in many editors and compiled in two portables IDE (Xamarin and Geany) and in another mainstream win-only-IDE(VS)...

Yes, blogs are useful. I'm still not sure who your argument is with, though.

On 8 July 2013 19:54, Baz <burg.basile@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 17:53:45 UTC, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, 8 July 2013 at 17:39:46 UTC, Baz wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 7 July 2013 at 15:00:43 UTC,
>>> That's interesting...but I'm not a big fan of collecting hundreds
>>> of links...I think that someone should create something like
>>> http://www.delphifeeds.com/ but for D...
>>
>>
>>
>> blogs.dlang.org ... ?
>>
>> There'd need to be some way of filtering upstreams by topic. I blog about D, but not _just_ about D.
>
>
> You're wrong, there's a real need for promoting D worldwide.
> Just for example, this mainstream (french) programming site has (had?) a
> forum for D which is not updated or used at all:
> http://www.developpez.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=fadd36f8505c59f0714e4e24a0c5a195&f=1180
>

Call me an inertial developer, but forums are an arcane place to discussion programming languages... unlike mailing lists :o)

Saying that,there's an amazing depth of information on forums, for example (taken from coding horror):

- A 12 year old girl who finds a forum community of rabid enthusiasts
willing to help her rebuild a Fiero from scratch? Check.
- The most obsessive breakdown of Lego collectible minifig kits you'll
find anywhere on the Internet? Check.
- Some of the most practical information on stunt kiting in the world? Check.
- The only place I could find with scarily powerful squirt gun
instructions and advice? Check.
- The underlying research for a New Yorker article outing a potential
serial marathon cheater? Check.

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