May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Simen Kjaeraas | On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 08:55:03 UTC, Simen Kjaeraas wrote:
> On 2013-05-12, 02:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
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>> On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest
>>> that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand
>>> or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion that they should all be
>>> released as soon as is technically feasable.
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>> Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule.
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> I'm happy with the current schedule. Please, no more than one video
> every second day.
Agreed. Once you have videos coming in quickly, the amount of attention each talk gets diminishes heavily, including the amount of external attention D itself gets.
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May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest
>> that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand
>> or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion that they should all be
>> released as soon as is technically feasable.
>
> Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule.
>
> Andrei
I guess is very culture-specific. Quite lot of programmers I know personally would have considered such marketing just for the sake of marketing an extremely hostile action and I personally have felt very frustrated when read that announcement.
What I'd _personally_ like to see is all videos released at once but then once in a 2 days they get details nice description / summary prepared and announced via reddit-whatever only than. Can volunteer to do that "textification" if needed.
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May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | On 2013-05-11 22:50, Jonathan M Davis wrote: > He's serious. If you post them all at once, then each video gets minimal > impact. A lot of people will look at one, maybe two, and then not bother with > the rest, because all of them showed up at once, whereas if they're posted > over a longer period of time, then each video will have larger a impact, > because it'll be showing up by itself, and it increases the chances of more > casual people viewing it. > > Yes. This sucks for those who didn't get the chance to go to the conference > and who will definitely view all of them regardless of how quickly they're > released, but it produces better PR for the language this way. We'll keep > getting new posts on reddit or wherever over a period of several weeks as > opposed to it being more of a blip on people's radar and then gone. Can't we upload all of them somewhere more private. -- /Jacob Carlborg |
May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest
>> that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand
>> or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion that they should all be
>> released as soon as is technically feasable.
>
> Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule.
>
2 a week + early access to kickstarter contributors seems like the most apropriate compromise to me.
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May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Sunday, 12 May 2013 at 00:22:58 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest
>> that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand
>> or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion that they should all be
>> released as soon as is technically feasable.
>
> Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule.
>
> Andrei
As frustrating as it is for non-attending enthusiasts like myself, I'd say stick with the current schedule. The marketing checks out.
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May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Friday, 10 May 2013 at 15:26:07 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 5/10/13 11:24 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> On 2013-05-10 16:38, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
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>>> Two a week.
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>> Is there a reason for this?
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> Maximize impact.
>
> Andrei
Well, just be careful because this could become a double edged sword. Some people "may" lose interest when the things are slow too.
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May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Saturday, 11 May 2013 at 22:31:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> It may be a nice idea to offer advance access to Kickstarter contributors though.
Again, be careful with that decision. For example, this seems to be reasonable at first, but doing this would NOT be nice with the developers in this community who couldn't afford with kickstarter, but contribute in another way, like for example: fixing bugs.
PS: I'm not included in any of these case here.
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May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Simen Kjaeraas | On 12-5-2013 10:47, Simen Kjaeraas wrote:
> On 2013-05-12, 02:22, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>
>> On 5/11/13 7:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> Furthermore, my whole point was nothing more than to merely suggest
>>> that *maybe* the delay should simply be somewhat less, *not* a demand
>>> or expectation, and *not* even a suggestion that they should all be
>>> released as soon as is technically feasable.
>>
>> Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release
>> schedule.
>
> I'm happy with the current schedule. Please, no more than one video
> every second day.
>
Whatever schedule is chosen, please make it memorable like "Tuesday && Thursday - D talk day".
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May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On 5/12/13, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote: > Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule. Let's take a quick poll on how often we should make new pull requests. I say let's limit ourselves to only two per week. |
May 12, 2013 Re: DConf 2013 Day 1 Talk 2: Copy and Move Semantics in D by Ali Cehreli | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrej Mitrovic | On 5/12/13 9:14 AM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> On 5/12/13, Andrei Alexandrescu<SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote:
>> Sure - let's take a quick poll on what would be the best release schedule.
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> Let's take a quick poll on how often we should make new pull requests.
> I say let's limit ourselves to only two per week.
Again, I don't understand what the problem is. It is my opinion that it's best for D if we release videos on a schedule, and I explained what makes me think so. Could you please do the same?
Thanks,
Andrei
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