One of the splits in the d community is on the topic of template hell; on my side the story goes, with templates we will make N data structures and M of algorthims and we will get NxM programs that heavily reuse code. The other side of the debate thinks templates airnt worth the effort and make bad error messages. This other side includes Walter.

Andrei Alexandrescu has been gone for at least a few years, theres no one to push this goal forward, or even to defend old ground. I dont know if my side is 10% of the d community or 70%, but I use d for the best template hell available.

If Walter dictates that Phobos should use less templates and the person managing Phobos doesn't even like template hell(I believe both of these are true); ranges are unlikely to improve in any respect for v3, and a very ineffective and painful attempt to minimize template usage of std.algorithm will be done uselessly. The job of writing range related code should go to literally anyone else who likes templates in an attempt to fill the job Andrei Alexandrescu left.

On Wednesday, 31 July 2024 at 20:26:16 UTC, monkyyy wrote:
The job of writing range related code should go

Can someone tell shortly what the the situation is with Andrei?

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 08:57:59 UTC, rkompass wrote:

He stepped away from his role as co-maintainer and is no longer involved in the day to day stuff. But he's still the vice president and treasurer of the D Language Foundation and participates in our meetings when he's able.

As a reminder to everyone, please keep posts in the DIP Ideas forum focused on feedback on the ideas. If you'd like to discuss an unrelated topic, please start a new thread in the General forum and not here so that the discussion is easier to follow. Thanks.

On Friday, 2 August 2024 at 09:37:29 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

... Probaly should have looked that up

anyway, ranges and their consequences are important enough someone should have a near-full time job wondering about the v3 details. And a job requirement of that should be liking templates.

On Saturday, 3 August 2024 at 00:44:56 UTC, monkyyy wrote:

As the fellow most closely associated with that idea I'd love for it to be a full-time job, but I don't see anybody stepping up to pay the requisite full-time salary. We all gotta eat.