On Thursday, 26 March 2015 at 11:25:50 UTC, ketmar wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 10:13:42 +0000, John Colvin wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 26 March 2015 at 06:16:59 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 21:56:29 +0000, Tove wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 24 March 2015 at 17:08:03 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>>>> Glad to announce D 2.067.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://dlang.dawg.eu/downloads/dmd.2.067.0/
>>>>>
>>>>> -Martin
>>>> 
>>>> Congrats! Although, I must admit, I was a little saddened to see that
>>>> multiple alias this didn't make the release, I thought it was
>>>> finalized... I should have kept a closer watch.
>>>
>>> and even single `alias this` is broken, so deadcode can't be build with
>>> 2.067. i told about that, but nobody cares, as usual.
>> 
>> Was it filed at issues.dlang.org as a regression?
>
> nope, it's not. i was asking for help in "general" (building minimised
> sample), but nobody was interested. neither do i, actually, as i believe
> that `alias this` is an abomination and ugly hack. maybe Kenji will fill
> the bug if he'll find a time for that.

This is (one of the many reasons) why we can't have nice things. You knew there was a regression and you didn't report it. A report without a minimised example is still better than no report at all, especially if it's a regression!

On Wednesday, 25 March 2015 at 21:13:14 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 3/25/15 1:32 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 3/25/15 12:39 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> On 3/24/15 10:07 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>>> Glad to announce D 2.067.0.
>>>
>>> Spreading the news:
>> [snip]
>>
>> Nice, we seem to be on HackerNews' front page:
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/
>
> And apparently we did something wrong - somehow we fell in minutes from position 11 to position 41. -- Andrei

maybe people don't give a s**t?
now over 80

On Thursday, 26 March 2015 at 16:13:11 UTC, Jack Death wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 March 2015 at 21:13:14 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 3/25/15 1:32 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> On 3/25/15 12:39 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>> On 3/24/15 10:07 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>>>> Glad to announce D 2.067.0.
>>>>
>>>> Spreading the news:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Nice, we seem to be on HackerNews' front page:
>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/
>>
>> And apparently we did something wrong - somehow we fell in minutes from position 11 to position 41. -- Andrei
>
> maybe people don't give a s**t?
> now over 80

they can and do move things up and down.

On Tuesday, 24 March 2015 at 17:08:03 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
> Glad to announce D 2.067.0.
>
> This release comes with many improvements.
> The GC is a lot faster for most use-cases, we have improved C++
> interoperability and fixed plenty of bugs.
>
> See the changelog for more details.
> http://dlang.org/changelog.html
>
> Download pages and documentation will be updated within the next few hours.
>
> http://downloads.dlang.org/releases/2.x/2.067.0/
> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/
>
> Until the binaries are mirrored to the official site, you can get them here.
> https://dlang.dawg.eu/downloads/dmd.2.067.0/
>
> -Martin

This is an awesome release. Thanks to all involved! :)

On 3/26/15 9:13 AM, Jack Death wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 March 2015 at 21:13:14 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 3/25/15 1:32 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> On 3/25/15 12:39 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>> On 3/24/15 10:07 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>>>> Glad to announce D 2.067.0.
>>>>
>>>> Spreading the news:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Nice, we seem to be on HackerNews' front page:
>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/
>>
>> And apparently we did something wrong - somehow we fell in minutes
>> from position 11 to position 41. -- Andrei
>
> maybe people don't give a s**t?

I communicated to an acquaintance at HackerNews and he noticed that their spam algorithm misclassified the post. He has subsequently restored the post's standing (which got back to a slightly lower position due to the time spanned). -- Andrei

On Thursday, 26 March 2015 at 20:08:23 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> I communicated to an acquaintance at HackerNews and he noticed that their spam algorithm misclassified the post. He has subsequently restored the post's standing (which got back to a slightly lower position due to the time spanned). -- Andrei

Is it possible that we're still triggering their voting ring detectors? Maybe we shouldn't announce HN posts here at all?

On Wednesday, 25 March 2015 at 21:38:15 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
> On Tuesday, 24 March 2015 at 17:08:03 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>> Glad to announce D 2.067.0.
>>
>> This release comes with many improvements.
>> The GC is a lot faster for most use-cases, we have improved C++
>> interoperability and fixed plenty of bugs.
>>
>> See the changelog for more details.
>> http://dlang.org/changelog.html
>>
>> Download pages and documentation will be updated within the next few hours.
>>
>> http://downloads.dlang.org/releases/2.x/2.067.0/
>> http://ftp.digitalmars.com/
>>
>> Until the binaries are mirrored to the official site, you can get them here.
>> https://dlang.dawg.eu/downloads/dmd.2.067.0/
>>
>> -Martin
>
> from the reddit thread:
>>Anyone know if there's been any comparisons of different heapSizeFactor values? Primarly, compared to the default 2, 1.5 or 1.618.
>
> has anyone working on the GC actually done any comparisons of the new options?

nothing?

On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:23:08 +0000, John Colvin wrote:

>>> Was it filed at issues.dlang.org as a regression?
>>
>> nope, it's not. i was asking for help in "general" (building minimised sample), but nobody was interested. neither do i, actually, as i believe that `alias this` is an abomination and ugly hack. maybe Kenji will fill the bug if he'll find a time for that.
> 
> This is (one of the many reasons) why we can't have nice things. You knew there was a regression and you didn't report it. A report without a minimised example is still better than no report at all, especially if it's a regression!

i tried that before, and it's simply not working this way.

there was not enough information to fill the bug report in the first place, as i didn't even know that it's `alias this` to blame. i have other things to do and i can't exclusively dedicate my box to dustmiting that issue (it finally took me 12 hours to dustmite it; yes, it's 12 full hours), so i asked for help in main NG. as nobody was willing to help, i considered that issue unimportant.

filling bugs like "this huge project not compiling!" is not working, as nobody wants to run dustmite on such projects, people just waiting for issue author to provide more information.

On 3/26/15 1:16 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Thursday, 26 March 2015 at 20:08:23 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> I communicated to an acquaintance at HackerNews and he noticed that
>> their spam algorithm misclassified the post. He has subsequently
>> restored the post's standing (which got back to a slightly lower
>> position due to the time spanned). -- Andrei
>
> Is it possible that we're still triggering their voting ring detectors?

Yah, he told me so.

> Maybe we shouldn't announce HN posts here at all?

We did things by the book, and hopefully we can count on them improving their algorithms.


Andrei

On 3/26/2015 3:53 PM, ketmar wrote:
> filling bugs like "this huge project not compiling!" is not working, as
> nobody wants to run dustmite on such projects, people just waiting for
> issue author to provide more information.

Realistically, people who want to work on bug fixing are going to work on ones that have already been isolated and filed.

If you've got a "huge project that's not compiling" and don't know where to start, that implies it isn't well modularized and encapsulated.