Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:29:19 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Charles Hixson Wrote:
>>
>>> The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility.  Compare them to
>>> the Python web pages, which I rate a second best.
>> OT:
>>
>> The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site.
>>
>> And yet if I google PyPI, and follow a link to pypi.python.org, a Package Index tab suddenly appears on the top left. If I click on another tab, it dissapears again. Needlessly inconsistent imo. (+ how are newbies supossed to find the libraries if they're not linked from the main site?)
> 
> The D website's navigation bar suffers the same problems.

???? I cannot reproduce such bad behavior.

"bearophile" <bearophileHUGS@lycos.com> wrote in message news:hsqv52$18c0$1@digitalmars.com...
> linux user:
>>Zip supports the executable flag but for some reason the compiler has negative attitude towards Linux users. Maybe it's supposed to boost the sales of the Windows port?<
>
> The situation is different. It's for LLVM and GCC that Windows users look like third-class citizens. What you are seeing is just DMD being a bit more fair.
>

I'm of the firm optinion that any app that requires MSYS or MinGW to work on Windows is no more cross-platform than an app that requires Wine to run on Linux. Less so, in fact, since MSYS and MinGW are a royal f*&*&^% pain in the ass, and Wine isn't (not to the same degree, anyway).

And then with LLVM, it goes another step further what with Windows exceptions continuing to be ignored. <paranoia and fud>Well, it *is* backed by Apple...</paranoia and fud>

"linux user" <nospam@for.me> wrote in message news:hsqcdg$4cn$1@digitalmars.com...
>
> Maybe it's supposed to boost the sales of the Windows port?
>

...sales?
...of DMD?
...???

On Mon, 17 May 2010 14:08:05 -0400, Walter Bright <newshound1@digitalmars.com> wrote:

> Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 May 2010 13:29:19 -0400, Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Charles Hixson Wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility.  Compare them to
>>>> the Python web pages, which I rate a second best.
>>> OT:
>>>
>>> The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site.
>>>
>>> And yet if I google PyPI, and follow a link to pypi.python.org, a Package Index tab suddenly appears on the top left. If I click on another tab, it dissapears again. Needlessly inconsistent imo. (+ how are newbies supossed to find the libraries if they're not linked from the main site?)
>>  The D website's navigation bar suffers the same problems.
>
> ???? I cannot reproduce such bad behavior.

I meant that the bar is not consistent, clicking on different items makes the bar change inexcusibly.

For example, from the page http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/index.html, click on "All Forums" and see the bar change completely.  The bar should remain consistent throughout the section.

There are other cases, like click on 'const and immutable' from this page: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/lex.html

The end result is, sometimes I can't find a link I clicked on before, because I'm no longer on the exact right page -- the nav bar is totally dependent on the current page!

-Steve

Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> Charles Hixson Wrote:
> 
>> The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility.  Compare them to the Python web pages, which I rate a second best.
> OT:
> 
> The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site.
> 
	There's a "Package Index" line in the left-hand menu on
http://python.org/ that links to http://pypi.python.org/pypi

		Jerome
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Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> The end result is, sometimes I can't find a link I clicked on before, because I'm no longer on the exact right page -- the nav bar is totally dependent on the current page!

I agree, the nav bar changes from page to page. Not sure that's a problem, though.

Jérôme M. Berger Wrote:

> Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> > Charles Hixson Wrote:
> > 
> >> The D web pages are a marvel of clarity and utility.  Compare them to the Python web pages, which I rate a second best.
> > OT:
> > 
> > The funny thing about the Python website, is that I never managed to find a direct link to the package repo (pypi) from the main site.
> > 
> 	There's a "Package Index" line in the left-hand menu on
> http://python.org/ that links to http://pypi.python.org/pypi
> 
> 		Jerome
> -- 
> mailto:jeberger@free.fr
> http://jeberger.free.fr
> Jabber: jeberger@jabber.fr
> 
> 

I've no idea how I missed that. Still, I wish they added a button on the left, it's much easier to notice.

Walter Bright Wrote:

> Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> > The end result is, sometimes I can't find a link I clicked on before, because I'm no longer on the exact right page -- the nav bar is totally dependent on the current page!
> 
> I agree, the nav bar changes from page to page. Not sure that's a problem, though.

In theory it's not, but when links just mysteriously disappear even though other links in the same group remain, it doesn't make any sense.

Yes, I agree that the nav bar should change to reflect the section you are in, but that's not what I'm talking about.  It's trying to play mind tricks on me :)

-Steve

On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:03:02 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Walter Bright Wrote:
>
>> Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> > The end result is, sometimes I can't find a link I clicked on before,
>> > because I'm no longer on the exact right page -- the nav bar is  
>> totally
>> > dependent on the current page!
>>
>> I agree, the nav bar changes from page to page. Not sure that's a problem, though.
>
> In theory it's not, but when links just mysteriously disappear even though other links in the same group remain, it doesn't make any sense.
>
> Yes, I agree that the nav bar should change to reflect the section you are in, but that's not what I'm talking about.  It's trying to play mind tricks on me :)
>
> -Steve

I find the biggest problem with the website is the Phobos documentation menu. For example, core.memory is listed as std.gc. And some modules aren't listed at all (like std.perf).

Robert Jacques <sandford@jhu.edu> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:03:02 -0400, Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Walter Bright Wrote:
>>
>>> Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>>> > The end result is, sometimes I can't find a link I clicked on before,
>>> > because I'm no longer on the exact right page -- the nav bar is  
>>> totally
>>> > dependent on the current page!
>>>
>>> I agree, the nav bar changes from page to page. Not sure that's a problem, though.
>>
>> In theory it's not, but when links just mysteriously disappear even though other links in the same group remain, it doesn't make any sense.
>>
>> Yes, I agree that the nav bar should change to reflect the section you are in, but that's not what I'm talking about.  It's trying to play mind tricks on me :)
>>
>> -Steve
>
> I find the biggest problem with the website is the Phobos documentation menu. For example, core.memory is listed as std.gc. And some modules aren't listed at all (like std.perf).

There is also the issue of the Phobos documentation not having the
updated top box. "D 2.0 Home" is labeled "D", "Library Reference" is
"Phobos", etc.

Once you've gotten to the library documentation, it being labeled
Phobos is not that important, though.

-- 
Simen