On 06.04.2011 02:15, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 19:37:15 -0400, Caligo <iteronvexor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's just frustrating, that's all. Writing thousands of lines of code
>> and having everything stop because of a compiler bug is just
>> frustrating.
>
> I completely understand. It's why I have to periodically stop using D.
> Dcollections sat idle for over a year while I waited for a compiler bug
> to be fixed.
>
>> I know progress is being made, and all that is appreciated. But, I
>> don't remember ever hearing anything about D2 being in beta. If
>> anything, I remember months ago where D2 was recommended for new
>> projects. So, now I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do. Start all
>> over again from scratch? I really like my design, so I guess I'll
>> have to wait till it gets fixed.
>
> Sorry you got that impression. The fact is, as long as you are using the
> non-broken features, D2 is pretty useful, even downright awesome :) The
> issue is, if you hit one of those broken ones. Unfortunately, the
> release of TDPL didn't make all those features magically appear fully
> implemented. So since TDPL is promoted as the offical language spec, D2
> suddenly jumped way back in the release cycle, since many of its
> unimplemented/not-fully-implemented features became "official".
>
> I'd highly recommend *NOT* to use D2 for new projects unless you are
> willing to redesign your code to work around those issues, or wait for
> them to be fixed. I truly wish this wasn't the case, but I don't see how
> anyone can confidently recommend D2 for professional or non-toy
> projects. This may sound like an anti-endorsement, but I assure you it
> is not. I think D2 is going to be absolutely killer when it's finished.
> I just would not use it for professional development *right now*, where
> deadlines and budgets are under consideration. If you can afford to put
> it down when it breaks and wait for a fix, then I think it will be worth
> the wait.
>
> -Steve

Both the d1 and d2 homepage states the following:

There are two versions of the language:
  1. D version 1 which is in maintenance mode.
  2. D version 2 which is recommended for new projects.

Should it mention that d2 is beta and phobos alpha? Or are you alone in thinking that?

On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:32:37 -0400, simendsjo <simen.endsjo@pandavre.com> wrote:

> Both the d1 and d2 homepage states the following:
>
> There are two versions of the language:
>    1. D version 1 which is in maintenance mode.
>    2. D version 2 which is recommended for new projects.
>
> Should it mention that d2 is beta and phobos alpha? Or are you alone in thinking that?

I would recommend that it said this.  Maybe I'm alone, and everyone else has no issues when they use D2.  It's not up to me what to say on digitalmars, I am not in charge of that page.

BTW, if it's a choice between D1/phobos and D2/phobos, I highly recommend D2/phobos.  D1 phobos is woefully inadequate for any real projects (when I first learned D it was for a networking project at work, and I tried D1/phobos for about a week before looking for something better), I recommend D1/tango if you want to use D1.

-Steve