On 6/20/2011 12:13 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away.

Sadly, any DRM books you buy on the Nook aren't usable on the Kindle and vice versa.

"Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:itols1$2mh5$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 6/20/2011 12:13 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away.
>
> Sadly, any DRM books you buy on the Nook aren't usable on the Kindle and vice versa.

Yup. DRM sucks.

Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

> I don't buy DVDs anymore, but for different reasons: PUOs, DRM, and Libraries.

Wait. You mean printed books libraries? They rent video content in America?

On 2011-06-21 02:39, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Walter Bright"<newshound2@digitalmars.com>  wrote in message
> news:itols1$2mh5$1@digitalmars.com...
>> On 6/20/2011 12:13 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>>> I've been guessing that will only happen when DRM starts going away.
>>
>> Sadly, any DRM books you buy on the Nook aren't usable on the Kindle and
>> vice versa.
>
> Yup. DRM sucks.

I have a Kindle, the one with the lager screen, and haven't bought a single book from their store. I only read DRM free PDF books and files. I'm satisfied with my Kindle.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

On 6/20/2011 11:37 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> I have a Kindle, the one with the lager screen,

You mean one comes with free beer? Dang, I missed that in the feature chart!

"Kagamin" <spam@here.lot> wrote in message news:itp8ke$ip5$1@digitalmars.com...
> Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
>
>> I don't buy DVDs anymore, but for different reasons: PUOs, DRM, and Libraries.
>
> Wait. You mean printed books libraries? They rent video content in America?

Yup. And CDs. Some of them even have a few videogames.

At least this is all true in the Cleveland area anyway. I don't know about other parts of the country.

"Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> wrote in message news:itprae$1it6$1@digitalmars.com...
> "Kagamin" <spam@here.lot> wrote in message news:itp8ke$ip5$1@digitalmars.com...
>> Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
>>
>>> I don't buy DVDs anymore, but for different reasons: PUOs, DRM, and Libraries.
>>
>> Wait. You mean printed books libraries? They rent video content in America?
>
> Yup. And CDs. Some of them even have a few videogames.
>

And audiobooks.

> At least this is all true in the Cleveland area anyway. I don't know about other parts of the country.
>

Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

> > The increase is not exorbitant.  From what I
> > remember it was 1.29 instead of .99 per song.
> 
> Interesting. Yea, I guess my info on that is out of date then. Last I heard they had just started adding the option (to some songs) of paying $0.30 extra to get a DRM-less lossless version. Glad to hear that turned out to just be a stepping stone.

?
0.99+0.30=1.29

They just removed an option to dl drm version at a lower price.

On 2011-06-21 11:57, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 6/20/2011 11:37 PM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> I have a Kindle, the one with the lager screen,
>
> You mean one comes with free beer? Dang, I missed that in the feature
> chart!

Exactly, they have one version that comes with ale instead :)

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:37:18 -0400, Kagamin <spam@here.lot> wrote:

> Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
>
>> > The increase is not exorbitant.  From what I
>> > remember it was 1.29 instead of .99 per song.
>>
>> Interesting. Yea, I guess my info on that is out of date then. Last I heard
>> they had just started adding the option (to some songs) of paying $0.30
>> extra to get a DRM-less lossless version. Glad to hear that turned out to
>> just be a stepping stone.
>
> ?
> 0.99+0.30=1.29
>
> They just removed an option to dl drm version at a lower price.

There are still some songs at 0.99, and some at 0.69 I think too.  It depends on what the artist wants to charge.

But I think also, songs you bought with DRM at 0.99 are free to update to DRM-free versions, whereas as Nick stated (I didn't know this), it was .30 to remove DRM from it previously.

The best part about it however, is that if you as an artist want the benefit of having your music on the most popular download site, you have to make your music available DRM-free.  That's a huge step, and it proves that DRM-free downloadable music is a viable business option.

I've always not been a fan of DRM, even though I am respectful of copyright law.  It's my legal copy, I should be able to play it on whatever I want, whenever I want.  DRM just restricts fair-use, it doesn't stop illegal copying.  Especially with music, where a pirate can spend $20 to get a CD they can rip the tracks from and make perfect DRM-free copies to sell.  I think the continued success of iTunes shows this is true.

-Steve