On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:32:02 +0000 (UTC), Clint Olson <Clint_member@pathlink.com> wrote:

> Your observation of both my effort and Mike's sounds correct.  I actually tried to reach Mike by email at sereral email addresses, including the one listed on his d-kernel pages.  They were returned as "undeliverable".

Hi, same for me. So I just took his code and ran a diff against the normal Phobos code base. Quite interesting to see the changes he made. IMO a bit scattered but OK.

> In a race to see which of us is less of an expert in this field, I have a
> feeling I would win.  I can't really answer your question athoritatively but it sounds feasible.

I had a short look at the glibc project. They state that it's not that easy to port because the lib is closely tied to the underlaying hardware (OK) and operating-system (hmmm...). This looks like a "first the OS than the lib approach".

With D we could switch this: First bring Phobos to run on bare metal and than build an GCed OS on top if it :-) Sounds more evident to me.

> If a group can be formed, great!  My concern is that it might be a group of one, you.  I'm unlikely to contribute much, for two reasons, the first being
> available time, the second being subject matter knowledge.

Well, it's more playing around with all this stuff at the moment. Hey, other big players started the same ;-))

> Booting my "simple" kernel was mostly a matter of reasearching how to use GRUB.

I need to master this step...

> Now I'm going to have to start learning about programming the intel hardware... (I'm a Java progammer, very little system/embedded programming).

As I don't like x86 ASM that much, I'm going to try to move up AFAP to get away from the ASM level.

> Thanks, I appreciate them, even though I don't have a lot of constructive
> responses.

No problem ;-) Same here.

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I got this stuff from Clint running on my Suse installation using VMWare. Creating the bootimage (which is only a file in VMWare) and using it as the start-image for a new d-kernel VMWare make the whole setup very comfortable. I think I have found a new toy to play around with :-))

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