VisualD regressions are severe; what do we do about critical infrastructure? (page 4)

October 18

Re: VisualD regressions are severe; what do we do about critical infrastructure?

Posted by user1234
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On Friday, 18 October 2024 at 01:06:07 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:

On Tuesday, 15 October 2024 at 10:20:54 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:

On Tuesday, 15 October 2024 at 09:50:06 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:

Got a spare 500k/USD/year? That's probably what it would take to staff the essentials.

Typical american mindset, "we only hire people from the Bay Area or Washington, and they cost us 500k USD a year, deal with it", "oh we out of funds, call the VCs we need to hire 100 more people"

There about half-a-dozen people who work on D part-time, uncompensated, on projects that are marked as critical to the DPL/DLF. This does not include myself. 500k is a bare-bones budget to support them.

Or are you suggesting that we should all give up our day jobs and work on D full-time and unpaid so that you can get your free goodies faster? [...]

In my opinion the problem is not money, the problem would rather be the lack of people involved.

Example: the d-lang community org on GH (DCD, D-scanner, i.e most of the projects initially created by Hackerpilot, sure there's also D-YAML...) has the same problem as VD now. At the beginning, let's say during the first three years, that worked fine but at some point initial maintainers started being less focused but at the same time what was happening was a lack of contributors renewal. "No next-gen", to summarize.

By analogy: VD is maintained by one developer, this developer does something else, "bam", the project stalls.

Open-sources projects in the D ecosystem barly manage to create emulation. Beyond the compilers and the standard library it's most of the time single-man projects.

On Friday, 18 October 2024 at 07:20:38 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:

On Friday, 18 October 2024 at 01:06:07 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:

[...]

D needs better marketer then

Weka it now worth 1.6B

https://www.weka.io/company/weka-newsroom/press-releases/weka-nets-140m-in-series-e-funding-at-1-6b-valuation/

They said they love D and it helped them greatly

Perhaps it's time to ask them for help and fund a tooling team?

Same for Symmetry, DConf is nice, but does that help bring more people in? what's the engagement of the DConf livestream looks like?

Weka browse the forum, time to help us, or we'll sink, you just said it, D foundation is low on money! Weka?! help us!

Wasn't Symmetry acquired? What are they using now?

Also looking at the Weka careers page, I am starting to see something else for filesystems programming.

https://www.weka.io/company/careers/?gh_jid=4234786007#career-position

On 18/10/2024 10:29 PM, Paulo Pinto wrote: > On Friday, 18 October 2024 at 07:20:38 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote: >> On Friday, 18 October 2024 at 01:06:07 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: >>> [...] >> >> D needs better marketer then >> >> Weka it now worth 1.6B >> >> https://www.weka.io/company/weka-newsroom/press-releases/weka- nets-140m-in-series-e-funding-at-1-6b-valuation/ >> >> They said they love D and it helped them greatly >> >> Perhaps it's time to ask them for help and fund a tooling team? >> >> Same for Symmetry, DConf is nice, but does that help bring more people in? what's the engagement of the DConf livestream looks like? >> >> Weka browse the forum, time to help us, or we'll sink, you just said it, D foundation is low on money! Weka?! help us! > > Wasn't Symmetry acquired? What are they using now? That sounds like Sociomantic which is from a long time ago now.

On Friday, 18 October 2024 at 09:40:25 UTC, Richard (Rikki) Andrew Cattermole wrote: > On 18/10/2024 10:29 PM, Paulo Pinto wrote: >> On Friday, 18 October 2024 at 07:20:38 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote: >>> [...] >> >> Wasn't Symmetry acquired? What are they using now? > > That sounds like Sociomantic which is from a long time ago now. Ah, that is right, thanks for the correction.

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