On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:13:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
> So basically everybody adapts to american broadcast standards?
>
> A fun book: The Hidden Dimension by Edward T. Hall

You come to country, you accept its culture. It is expected attitude.

On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:00:08 UTC, Araq wrote:
> On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 20:15:52 UTC, Wyatt wrote:
>> On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 19:29:10 UTC, Araq wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah but it can also discourage the many people who are fed up with political correctness.
>>
>> Good. If "not being a jerk" is such an onerous burden, their influence is almost certain to be harmful to the community in the long-term.
>>
>> -Wyatt
>
> Ah so "being fed up with politicial correctness" is now the same as "being a jerk". Very well.

From my personal experience in the UK, It's a pretty good indicator. Not exclusively, but perhaps 80% of the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHLnf5H4soU

On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:01:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> One can argue that it's all relative but that's rather ineffective. The reality is I do work at Facebook with people from all over the globe and though cultural adaptation is on rare occasions an issue, it's never been considered inapproachable or even difficult.
>

Well yes and no. People come in a company and adapt to the existing standards. It is much easier to do face to face than online. For instance, I often speak French with one of my coworker. We speak to each other in ways that would seems completely unacceptable by the usual standards in the company.

PS: I works at Facebook as well.

On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:14:34 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> You come to country, you accept its culture. It is expected attitude.

I don't see your point. That only work on a very superficial level.

You cannot expect a chinese girl to appreciate being kissed on the street by her boyfriend, even if she moves to Europe.

On 3/17/2014 5:14 PM, Dicebot wrote:
> On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:13:06 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
>> So basically everybody adapts to american broadcast standards?
>
> You come to country, you accept its culture. It is expected attitude.

American broadcast standards have nothing to do with american culture, they're famously disconnected. That's the problem with them and (I assume) what Ola was pointing out: Try not to offend anyone (as the FCC implicitly forces broadcasters to do), and you're automatically adopting the sub-culture of the craziest, biggest knee-jerkers in existence, no matter how uncommon and non-representative their "get offended any anything and everything" actually is.

Personally I'm offended by knee-jerk ethics (I'm not being coy about that, I really do find it highly offensive), which throws the whole idea of not offending anyone right out the window.

> From my personal experience in the UK, It's a pretty good indicator. Not exclusively, but perhaps 80% of the time.

If only you would understand how ironic your argument is.

On 3/17/2014 11:50 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote:
>
> The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should

Pervasive sexism in programming? What a complete crock of shit.

On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 21:29:59 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> From my personal experience in the UK, It's a pretty good indicator.

UK is a class society, US is a melting pot. In order to prevent eruptions if discontent an conflict you developed a careful politness as safe guards (which somtimes are perceived as dishonest, fake, shallow or manipulative by foreigners).

Countries with more homogene cultures can be more rhetorical and free speaking, because you have fewer factors to play up to? Finns have some fun cuss phrases that would be taken as offensive and sexist in the US, but as fun in nordic countries. Does that mean that scandinavian cultures are sexist and jerk like?

On 3/17/2014 5:00 PM, Araq wrote:
> On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 20:15:52 UTC, Wyatt wrote:
>>
>> Good. If "not being a jerk" is such an onerous burden, their influence
>> is almost certain to be harmful to the community in the long-term.
>
> Ah so "being fed up with politicial correctness" is now the same as
> "being a jerk". Very well.

very, very true. Politicial correctness has nothing whatsoever to do with politeness.

You wanna know what "political correctness" is about? I swear I'm mot making this up: You're no longer supposed to refer to "Attention Deficit Disorder" as such. Believe it or not, "political correctness"  now demands it be called "Attention Deficit *Hyperactivity* Disorder *WITHOUT Hyperactivity*". That's right, "hyperactivity without hyperactivity". Then they play off garbage like that as *somehow* being more friendly and polite, pretend their idiocy is actually being worthwhile instead of dragging us back to the damn puritan era, and then people actually *believe* their bullshit about "political correctness" actually having some connection to ethics.

But of course, ethics isn't something to be questioned, and so by (false) association, people are also scared shitless of questioning political correctness, too.

On Monday, 17 March 2014 at 22:15:25 UTC, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> On 3/17/2014 11:50 AM, Graham Fawcett wrote:
>>
>> The pervasive sexism in our profession is a serious problem, and should
>
> Pervasive sexism in programming? What a complete crock of shit.

And all these pull request we rejected because they were made by women ? HA! See!

Oh wait...