On Friday, 12 February 2021 at 11:19:26 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote:
> On Friday, 12 February 2021 at 00:26:09 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 12:12:36PM -0800, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: [...]
>>> https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/
>>
>> Not bad, but it seems to be missing some of the newer idioms.
>
> It's because I lack the time to update it. It was always a page to let _me_ understand the language better, and then I got to a point where I wasn't following the D development enough.

I'd love if you'd pick up again. Years ago, when it was a bit more active, I'd check it all the time. I've learned a lot from the page. Thanks for all your work on it!

On Friday, 12 February 2021 at 08:31:13 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 2/11/2021 5:53 PM, James Lu wrote:
>> On Thursday, 11 February 2021 at 20:12:36 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>> Now #5 on the front page of https://news.ycombinator.com/news
>> 
>> I've gotten Dlang to the frontpage of HN 3 other times:
>> 
>> 
>> Specification for the D Programming Language https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21993208
>> D 2.0.93.0 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23859448
>> Ask HN: Why do you use Rust, when D is available? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23494490
>
> Thank you!

Thanks for the kind words :)

>
>> If you have any particularly interesting and specific pages on D, feel free to send them to me, so I can post them to HN at the optimal time. (Furthermore, if you authored it, you should a comment that explains why you made it and offering to answer questions– I have found this can turn a regular post into a frontpage post.)
>
> Yes, having the author do an AMA is very productive.

I once resubmitted with an AMA-style comment, which was the difference between getting 12 points and not getting on the frontpage, and getting on the frontpage with 158 points.

On Friday, 12 February 2021 at 01:53:25 UTC, James Lu wrote:
> If you have any particularly interesting and specific pages on D, feel free to send them to me, so I can post them to HN at the optimal time. (Furthermore, if you authored it, you should a comment that explains why you made it and offering to answer questions– I have found this can turn a regular post into a frontpage post.)

I wanted to add: What I do is I take a post that could be submitted
to Hacker News, then I am an "optimizing compiler" for it. I post
at 3pm on Monday through Thursday, add comments, tune the submission
title, and various small HN-specific optimizations– my submissions have
been on its frontpage 20 times, I know what I'm doing.

On Thursday, 11 February 2021 at 20:12:36 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> Now #5 on the front page of https://news.ycombinator.com/news
>
> The page being discussed:
>
> https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/
>
> and on reddit:
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/lhssjp/idioms_for_the_d_programming_language/

A question for you: What is the most interesting (shows the language) and beginner-friendly source code file of DMD? I want to link to the compiler source to do that. It needs to be readable by a beginner, yet also provide interesting and substantial information on how D or compilers work.


 * Demonstrate DMD is open-source
 * Get DLang more attention
 * Demonstrate how good DMDFE is

On Saturday, 13 February 2021 at 16:06:31 UTC, James Lu wrote:
> On Thursday, 11 February 2021 at 20:12:36 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>> Now #5 on the front page of https://news.ycombinator.com/news
>>
>> The page being discussed:
>>
>> https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/
>>
>> and on reddit:
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/lhssjp/idioms_for_the_d_programming_language/
>
> A question for you: What is the most interesting (shows the language) and beginner-friendly source code file of DMD? I want to link to the compiler source to do that. It needs to be readable by a beginner, yet also provide interesting and substantial information on how D or compilers work.
>
>
>  * Demonstrate DMD is open-source
>  * Get DLang more attention
>  * Demonstrate how good DMDFE is

"readable by a beginner" && "interesting and substantial information" might be hard to find. Did you mean front- or backend? If you want to show compiler u might look at https://github.com/dlang/dmd/blob/master/src/dmd/compiler.d for example.

But I think it might be better to begin with some kind of overview so you understand what you're looking at 🐢

On Saturday, 13 February 2021 at 16:39:12 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:
> On Saturday, 13 February 2021 at 16:06:31 UTC, James Lu wrote:
>>  [...]
>
> "readable by a beginner" && "interesting and substantial information" might be hard to find. Did you mean front- or backend? If you want to show compiler u might look at https://github.com/dlang/dmd/blob/master/src/dmd/compiler.d for example.

Frontend, to show the language.

On Sunday, 14 February 2021 at 17:56:00 UTC, James Lu wrote:
> On Saturday, 13 February 2021 at 16:39:12 UTC, Imperatorn wrote:
>> On Saturday, 13 February 2021 at 16:06:31 UTC, James Lu wrote:
>>>  [...]
>>
>> "readable by a beginner" && "interesting and substantial information" might be hard to find. Did you mean front- or backend? If you want to show compiler u might look at https://github.com/dlang/dmd/blob/master/src/dmd/compiler.d for example.
>
> Frontend, to show the language.

If you are looking for high level understanding of a D front end https://github.com/SDC-Developers/SDC might help, either standalone or as a supplement to your DMD readings.

On the minus side, SDC is a hibernating prototype.

On the plus side, SDC employs a strong architecture that factors out many of the dependency issues facing DMD.  What remains is very readable.

On 2/13/2021 7:57 AM, James Lu wrote:
> I once resubmitted with an AMA-style comment, which was the difference between getting 12 points and not getting on the frontpage, and getting on the frontpage with 158 points.

Yup.

Another critical thing is to make the first post. The first post has a strong tendency to set the tone for the entire topic. The first post should be a brief synopsis of what the article is about, said in a positive manner.

Leaving this to chance has led too many times to having a topic essentially sabotaged by someone making a first post that is strongly negative. The topic never recovers.

Always always when submitting a link, make the first post.