On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 12:49:11 +0200
"nazriel" <nazriel6969@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greetings.
> 
> I would like to share with you, Beta version of http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/
> 
> Dpaste is online compiler and collaboration tool dedicated to D Programming Language. It allows to run your D Code snippets directly in web browser!
> 
> As for now following compilers are supported: DMD2.059, DMD1.074, DMD 2-git revision (which is updated every 3-days). GDC coming soon.
> 
> 
> Please tell me what do you think, what would you add/change, or report any errors you find.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Best regards,
> Damian Ziemba
> 

Awesome :)

nazriel:

> I would like to share with you, Beta version of http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/

I have tried that page some more. Two screen grabs:
http://derp.co.uk/35b8d

1) In the first part of the image the background colors are
disabled. For such situations I suggest to make the green and red
boxes with v and x to be visible with disabled colors too.
1b) I also suggest to write down "segmentation fault" somewhere,
instead just setting it a tooltip of those boxes.

2) Second part of the image: why I am not seeing a link to create
a new paste?

3) I have tried to register myself, but it always refuse my
CAPTCHA :-(

Bye,
bearophile

On 5 July 2012 14:47, bearophile <bearophileHUGS@lycos.com> wrote:
> nazriel:
>
>
>> I would like to share with you, Beta version of http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/
>
>
> I have tried that page some more. Two screen grabs: http://derp.co.uk/35b8d
>
> 1) In the first part of the image the background colors are
> disabled. For such situations I suggest to make the green and red
> boxes with v and x to be visible with disabled colors too.
> 1b) I also suggest to write down "segmentation fault" somewhere,
> instead just setting it a tooltip of those boxes.
>
> 2) Second part of the image: why I am not seeing a link to create a new paste?
>
> 3) I have tried to register myself, but it always refuse my
> CAPTCHA :-(
>

Try logging in using OpenID.  :~)


-- 
Iain Buclaw

*(p < e ? p++ : p) = (c & 0x0f) + '0';

On Thursday, 5 July 2012 at 13:47:42 UTC, bearophile wrote:
> nazriel:
>
>> I would like to share with you, Beta version of http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/
>
> I have tried that page some more. Two screen grabs:
> http://derp.co.uk/35b8d
>
> 1) In the first part of the image the background colors are
> disabled. For such situations I suggest to make the green and red
> boxes with v and x to be visible with disabled colors too.
> 1b) I also suggest to write down "segmentation fault" somewhere,
> instead just setting it a tooltip of those boxes.
>
> 2) Second part of the image: why I am not seeing a link to create
> a new paste?
>
> 3) I have tried to register myself, but it always refuse my
> CAPTCHA :-(
>
> Bye,
> bearophile

Thank you bearophile for your testings!

There is so much to do that I had no time yet to make some better tests in browsers like links, or with JavaScript disabled.

1) Yes, its good idea, I need to think about it. Its nice look vs utility on browsers without colors (how many people uses browsers without colors? :D)
1b) Hmm, maybe good idea, yea, will think about it too.

2) Dunno tbh, could you give me some details about your web-browser. Its looks like Bootstrap fail so its has to be really exotic browser.

3) It maybe problematic, I had to introduce some kind of anti-spam mechanism.
You can sing in using Github, Google, Facebook, OpenID accounts if that will fail for you.

Also there may be case, that anti-spam mechanism triggers while you send code snippet.

I think that after all I should make it clear for users that Images are required for website full functionality.

Thanks again!

Will try to solve your problems tommorow.

Best Regards,
Damian Ziemba

nazriel:

> Thank you bearophile for your testings!

Thank you for the very elegant D paste site. I'm good at hitting ways to _not_ be able to use software and sites :o) Sometimes even people like Mister Beam are useful.

In that site sometimes I'd like an way to compile with "-d" or "-debug" or "-version", this is probably doable.

Offering an option to see the produced assembly is less easy, because usually D produces very large asm listings... maybe this is doable showing only the asm of the single or few specific functions selected by the user, this gives a manageable sized output.


> There is so much to do that I had no time yet to make some better tests in browsers like links, or with JavaScript disabled.

In all tests I've done I was keeping JavaScript enabled, and I think images too were enabled. I have just disabled colors in one test.


> (how many people uses browsers without colors? :D)

I don't know. It's a standard feature of Firefox, well visible in the Options/Contents page. I sometimes disable colors when I program or write, to look for info faster, and cause less disruption to my flow. A friend of mine keeps them always disabled to reduce distractions. And I know another person that keeps them disabled because he's deeply color blind, and finds colors confusing (he sometimes removes part of the colors from presentations created by other people).


> 2) Dunno tbh, could you give me some details about your web-browser. Its looks like Bootstrap fail so its has to be really exotic browser.

It's a normal Firefox 13.0.1, but it's not easy to give a complete answer to this question. Maybe we have to meet on IRC when you modify the site :-)

Bye,
bearophile

On Thursday, 5 July 2012 at 22:10:12 UTC, bearophile wrote:
> nazriel:
>
>> Thank you bearophile for your testings!
>
> Thank you for the very elegant D paste site. I'm good at hitting ways to _not_ be able to use software and sites :o) Sometimes even people like Mister Beam are useful.
>
I guess beta testers are very expensive in gamedev industry etc, so it's really good to have you!

> In that site sometimes I'd like an way to compile with "-d" or "-debug" or "-version", this is probably doable.
>
Yes, I was already thinking about it as I noticed some pastes with stuff like
unittest { assert(0==1); }

Implementing this is rather trivial, will do!

> Offering an option to see the produced assembly is less easy, because usually D produces very large asm listings... maybe this is doable showing only the asm of the single or few specific functions selected by the user, this gives a manageable sized output.
>
This is feature I would like to add in 2.0 Milestone alongside with Solutions (multiple files compilable together), debugging support. Will take some time to implement it though because I am still not yet at 1.0 and alone in coding :D

>
>> There is so much to do that I had no time yet to make some better tests in browsers like links, or with JavaScript disabled.
>
> In all tests I've done I was keeping JavaScript enabled, and I think images too were enabled. I have just disabled colors in one test.
>
Wow, that's tricky! I never though about it, all tests I was doing were like "lets see what happens without js and images". Clever! Will try it.

>
>> (how many people uses browsers without colors? :D)
>
> I don't know. It's a standard feature of Firefox, well visible in the Options/Contents page. I sometimes disable colors when I program or write, to look for info faster, and cause less disruption to my flow. A friend of mine keeps them always disabled to reduce distractions. And I know another person that keeps them disabled because he's deeply color blind, and finds colors confusing (he sometimes removes part of the colors from presentations created by other people).
>
Yea, good catch. Will think about it.
>
>> 2) Dunno tbh, could you give me some details about your web-browser. Its looks like Bootstrap fail so its has to be really exotic browser.
>
> It's a normal Firefox 13.0.1, but it's not easy to give a complete answer to this question. Maybe we have to meet on IRC when you modify the site :-)
>

Sure! You know where to find me! ;~)

> Bye,
> bearophile

Bye! Thank you very much
I really appreciate your help!

On 7/5/2012 2:17 PM, nazriel wrote:
> 1) Yes, its good idea, I need to think about it. Its nice look vs utility on
> browsers without colors (how many people uses browsers without colors? :D)
> 1b) Hmm, maybe good idea, yea, will think about it too.

Something to think about:

1. should be usable for people with varying degrees of color blindness

2. should be usable for blind people who use screen readers (yes, there are blind programmers)

On Friday, 6 July 2012 at 19:43:28 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 7/5/2012 2:17 PM, nazriel wrote:
>> 1) Yes, its good idea, I need to think about it. Its nice look vs utility on
>> browsers without colors (how many people uses browsers without colors? :D)
>> 1b) Hmm, maybe good idea, yea, will think about it too.
>
> Something to think about:
>
> 1. should be usable for people with varying degrees of color blindness
>
> 2. should be usable for blind people who use screen readers (yes, there are blind programmers)

Yes, you are right.

So, I've updated dpaste a bit.

Status markers should be visible with disabled colors,
You can now compile multiple files:
http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/ae48ac77 -> http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/f5acfe0a
(Although you have to be registered to use this feature)

Some other bug fixes.

Slowly I am moving to 1.0 Milestone. :)))

Bearophile, could you visit us at IRC channel? I will be online at 22.00 (its 15.35 here right now). Because I can't reproduce problem with not visible "New paste" link

Thanks!

Best regards,
Damian Ziemba
Thanks.

nazriel:

> I would like to share with you, Beta version of http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/

At the moment gives a 403 error :-(

Bye,
bearophile

On Tuesday, 21 August 2012 at 23:17:42 UTC, bearophile wrote:
> nazriel:
>
>> I would like to share with you, Beta version of http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/
>
> At the moment gives a 403 error :-(
>
> Bye,
> bearophile

Yeah, our hosting provider had migration and due to specification of dpaste, automatic migration of website failed. But I moved it by hand, seems to be working good again.

Anyways!

* CodeMirror has been updated, some of Opera bugs should be fixed now.
* Tags has been added. Thanks to Dejan we already have nice base of tags http://dpaste.dzfl.pl/tags
* Mini news system has been added
* Users with small resolutions should be able to see Menu's navbar properly now


More changes coming soon! :)