On Sunday, 26 January 2014 at 19:56:59 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> On 1/21/14, <munrek@gmx.com>"@puremagic.com <"\"Théo".Bueno"> wrote:
>> Manjaro is great but keep in mind that you will not have access
>> to ArchLinux official repositories.
>
> Speaking of Manjaro, does anyone know how to disable the auto-update
> feature of Pacman? I'm really getting tired of being asked to download
> 400MB updates every single day when I start pacman. I can't find much
> on their wiki. Yeah I could ask in IRC, but I might as well ask here.
> :)

Guess it's somewhere in the preferences for the Xfce desktop or in the GUI version of pacman, but I dunno, I just found this on first google.

http://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Using_Manjaro_for_Beginners

Regarding FreeBSD and ArchLinux, the baseline is:

FreeBSD is very good, but ArchLinux is more or less on the same level. Right?

On Monday, 27 January 2014 at 18:35:24 UTC, Chris wrote:
> On Sunday, 26 January 2014 at 19:56:59 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>> On 1/21/14, <munrek@gmx.com>"@puremagic.com <"\"Théo".Bueno"> wrote:
>>> Manjaro is great but keep in mind that you will not have access
>>> to ArchLinux official repositories.
>>
>> Speaking of Manjaro, does anyone know how to disable the auto-update
>> feature of Pacman? I'm really getting tired of being asked to download
>> 400MB updates every single day when I start pacman. I can't find much
>> on their wiki. Yeah I could ask in IRC, but I might as well ask here.
>> :)
>
> Guess it's somewhere in the preferences for the Xfce desktop or in the GUI version of pacman, but I dunno, I just found this on first google.
>
> http://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Using_Manjaro_for_Beginners
>
> Regarding FreeBSD and ArchLinux, the baseline is:
>
> FreeBSD is very good, but ArchLinux is more or less on the same level. Right?

On the topic of FreeBSD, any experience with PC-BSD? Seems to be a sound system based on FreeBSD.

On Monday, 27 January 2014 at 19:43:09 UTC, Chris wrote:
> On Monday, 27 January 2014 at 18:35:24 UTC, Chris wrote:
>> On Sunday, 26 January 2014 at 19:56:59 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>>> On 1/21/14, <munrek@gmx.com>"@puremagic.com <"\"Théo".Bueno"> wrote:
>>>> Manjaro is great but keep in mind that you will not have access
>>>> to ArchLinux official repositories.
>>>
>>> Speaking of Manjaro, does anyone know how to disable the auto-update
>>> feature of Pacman? I'm really getting tired of being asked to download
>>> 400MB updates every single day when I start pacman. I can't find much
>>> on their wiki. Yeah I could ask in IRC, but I might as well ask here.
>>> :)
>>
>> Guess it's somewhere in the preferences for the Xfce desktop or in the GUI version of pacman, but I dunno, I just found this on first google.
>>
>> http://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Using_Manjaro_for_Beginners
>>
>> Regarding FreeBSD and ArchLinux, the baseline is:
>>
>> FreeBSD is very good, but ArchLinux is more or less on the same level. Right?
>
> On the topic of FreeBSD, any experience with PC-BSD? Seems to be a sound system based on FreeBSD.

Just found this. Interesting. Is the guy exaggerating or not?

http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/bsd-vs-linux/

On Monday, 27 January 2014 at 20:42:57 UTC, Chris wrote:

> Just found this. Interesting. Is the guy exaggerating or not?
>
> http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/bsd-vs-linux/

Found this forum post talking about the article :
https://www.linuxdistrocommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=1537&pid=9321#pid9321

On Monday, 27 January 2014 at 20:42:57 UTC, Chris wrote:
> Just found this. Interesting. Is the guy exaggerating or not?
>
> http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/bsd-vs-linux/

Stopped reading after GPL vs BSD license bullshit.

On Monday, 27 January 2014 at 22:15:22 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> On Monday, 27 January 2014 at 20:42:57 UTC, Chris wrote:
>> Just found this. Interesting. Is the guy exaggerating or not?
>>
>> http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/bsd-vs-linux/
>
> Stopped reading after GPL vs BSD license bullshit.

"[...] former OpenBSD developer Jason Dickson mentions that when a new BSD variant is created, they have to start from the broken, old and outdated 4.4BSD code as including code from other BSDs often leads to law suits and death threats."

And earlier he writes

"[...] The problem appears when USBs are removed without unmounting them first. The result is a kernel panic. [...] FreeBSD mailing lists even ban people who dare mention about it."

This gives you the impression that the BSD community is fairly narrow-minded (to put it mildly) and does not tolerate any criticism.

Anyway, I'll stick to Arch for now as we use Linux at work too and Linux seems to be more up-to-date (or "bleeding edge") than the BSDs ... and the name "pacman" for the package manager is just brilliant, I wonder why no-one else ever came up with this pun.

On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 at 09:50:19 UTC, Chris wrote:
>
> ...

I have never used BSD-based systems and have no idea abut its internal affairs. Linux is better for desktops simply because it has bigger community. But any time I read something akin to "GPL license is so much more free than BSD" I immediately mark author as terribly biased and possibly ignorant whatever else he has to say.

On Wednesday, 22 January 2014 at 00:50:36 UTC, Mariusz `shd` Gliwiński wrote:
> On Monday, 20 January 2014 at 12:30:27 UTC, Chris wrote:
>> At work we use Ubuntu, however, I'm not at all happy with it and don't want to use it on my private computer. Which is the best alternative (I've been looking at OpenSUSE; Mint is based on Ubuntu/Debian but only shares the repository with Ubuntu (right?); Fedora has bad reviews at the moment and might be a pain to set up (drivers etc.)). I'm also considering FreeBSD, a completely different beast.
>
> If you've never heard about it, NixOS is quite interesting project.
> It would require a bit of Linux knowledge and even worse - time - to use it.

OT:
Thank you very much for bring up NixOS. I found it quite interesting and am considering switching over to it from Arch on my laptop.
*tipsimageneryhat*

On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 at 10:28:02 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 at 09:50:19 UTC, Chris wrote:
>>
>> ...
>
> I have never used BSD-based systems and have no idea abut its internal affairs. Linux is better for desktops simply because it has bigger community. But any time I read something akin to "GPL license is so much more free than BSD" I immediately mark author as terribly biased and possibly ignorant whatever else he has to say.

I read the following blog (or rant?) too

http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/2013/03/01/bsd-and-stallmans-four-freedoms/

and don't know, if the author has a point. Big companies will always try to sue everyone for everything.

And here's a lengthy discussion about the issue:

http://beta.slashdot.org/story/6106

(and elsewhere if you care to google it)

I'm no expert but I'm sure there are pitfalls with both licenses.

On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 at 11:03:16 UTC, Chris wrote:
> I'm no expert but I'm sure there are pitfalls with both licenses.

Exactly. Pretty much why starting an article with an license ideology rant on this topic does not give a credit to an authour. There is no shame in having opinion on topic but starting with it what was supposed to be fact-based comparison? No way.

On ideology offtopic - in my opinion BSD is akin to anarchism and GPL is like communism, in modern internet flavor :)