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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 05:50:26 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
> I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including: forcing users to use Microsoft accounts, advertising own products, changing search to Bing (that's pretty bad one, no idea how I came up with it) and more and more.
Something that might be worth being concerned about is that Microsoft might be more strict in policing its online properties than GitHub, so watch out for them shutting down projects/repositories of politically charged subjects, or those e.g. based on reverse-engineered MS code.
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | Oh look, rumours are confirmed: https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-github/ MS bought GitHub for $5 billion. |
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 08:42:08 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: > On 6/3/2018 8:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote: >> This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is today). > > We'll stay on Github as long as it continues to serve our interests, which it has done very well, and I have no reason to believe will change. It's understandable, moving organization this big around is not easy and it shouldn't be done unless it is absolutely needed. > We have a number of ties to Microsoft: It's great to know that MS is so nice to D. I guess that's because D isn't something over-hyped and MS might be interested in technologies, not in money or popularity. |
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Posted in reply to Vladimir Panteleev | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 09:38:57 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 05:50:26 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
>> I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including: forcing users to use Microsoft accounts, advertising own products, changing search to Bing (that's pretty bad one, no idea how I came up with it) and more and more.
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> Something that might be worth being concerned about is that Microsoft might be more strict in policing its online properties than GitHub, so watch out for them shutting down projects/repositories of politically charged subjects, or those e.g. based on reverse-engineered MS code.
GitHub removed repositories before when contents were illegal.
That's an interesting question though: now there's nothing stopping MS from changing user agreement and removing repositories without any kind of legal lawsuit.
Also, nothing stops MS from making it harder for other big companies like Google and Apple to support and host their projects on the GitHub.
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 05:50:26 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
> I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including: forcing users to use Microsoft accounts
That didn't happen to skype yet.
MS recently tries to mend its reputation, though the past will linger for a while.
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Posted in reply to Kagamin | On Monday, June 04, 2018 14:51:24 Kagamin via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 05:50:26 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote:
> > I can think of hundreds of things what can go wrong including: forcing users to use Microsoft accounts
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> That didn't happen to skype yet.
> MS recently tries to mend its reputation, though the past will
> linger for a while.
In many respects, they're better behaved than they used to be. They're biggest problems seem to have to do with what they're doing with Windows (e.g. tracking what you're doing and not letting you turn it off). It's certainly not desriable that they bought github, but it probably won't have any obvious effects for a while. The biggest concerns probably have to do with collecting data on users, and github was doutblessly doing that already.
- Jonathan M Davis
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Posted in reply to Jonathan M Davis | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 15:08:01 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> In many respects, they're better behaved than they used to be. They're biggest problems seem to have to do with what they're doing with Windows (e.g. tracking what you're doing and not letting you turn it off). It's certainly not desriable that they bought github, but it probably won't have any obvious effects for a while. The biggest concerns probably have to do with collecting data on users, and github was doutblessly doing that already.
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> - Jonathan M Davis
At least in the EU we had a big GDPR Windows Update that let you disable every tracking. All in all an amazing law (for the user) that would make sense for regulators to import.
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Posted in reply to Anton Fediushin | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 09:47:58 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote: > Oh look, rumours are confirmed: > > https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-github/ > MS bought GitHub for $5 billion. It's official, Nat Friedman, formerly of Xamarin, is the new CEO: https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/ MS is basically selling a story to Wall Street, "Everything new we tried since Windows and Office has failed abysmally, so we've learned our lesson and will be the business software company from now on," hence buying LinkedIn, pushing Azure, and now buying Github. I don't expect this new management direction to go any better. |
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Posted in reply to Joakim | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 18:17:24 UTC, Joakim wrote: > On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 09:47:58 UTC, Anton Fediushin wrote: >> Oh look, rumours are confirmed: >> >> https://itsfoss.com/microsoft-github/ >> MS bought GitHub for $5 billion. > > It's official, Nat Friedman, formerly of Xamarin, is the new CEO: > > https://blog.github.com/2018-06-04-github-microsoft/ Also, there's an article from Satya Nadella, current CEO of Microsoft: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2018/06/04/microsoft-github-empowering-developers/ > MS is basically selling a story to Wall Street, "Everything new we tried since Windows and Office has failed abysmally, so we've learned our lesson and will be the business software company from now on," hence buying LinkedIn, pushing Azure, and now buying Github. I don't expect this new management direction to go any better. Of course MS does, since they spent $5 billion on it. They will try their best to make profit out of it, just like they did with LinkedIn. |
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | On Monday, 4 June 2018 at 08:42:08 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 6/3/2018 8:51 PM, Anton Fediushin wrote:
>> This is still just a rumour, we'll know the truth on Monday (which is today).
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> We'll stay on Github as long as it continues to serve our interests, which it has done very well, and I have no reason to believe will change.
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> We have a number of ties to Microsoft:
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> 1. It's just down the street.
> 2. Many D users work at Microsoft.
> 3. Microsoft has always been helpful and supportive of Digital Mars, note the files licensed from Microsoft in the distribution.
> 4. Microsoft has invited myself and Andrei to speak at Microsoft from time to time.
> 5. Microsoft hosts the nwcpp.org meetings, which provide a venue for me to try out D presentations to a friendly crowd.
> 6. Microsoft has been generous with helping me solve some vexing compatibility problems from time to time.
OK, so Digital Mars is in good relationship with Microsoft (I am surprised because have never heard about it). However, judging by Microsoft acqusition experience my prediction is that github will slowly but surely degradate (as suggested on some forums, everything will be firstly switched to Microsoft account - to track data, then everything will be mangled by ads, then some features deemed unnecessary by Microsoft will be removed, then linux will be badly supoorted, then some features incompatible with Microsoft services will stop working, then servers will start work poorly like skype...).
P.S.
My second reaction after reading news (after shock) was to visit D forum.
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