For backend only webdev, I see no issue with using vibe.d besides not getting more options of third-party library for cloud services in D.

The major complaint was that vibe.d has a slow html templating library (diet) but that was about it.

These days, front-end libraries/frameworks ( react, angular, vue, svelte) are often used anyways.

I personally would consider vibe.d for backend only when building "large" apps due to the von mentioned above.

With that said, front-end requires a lot of iteration of the elements and styling and it'll be frustratingly slow working with a compiled language for that. Languages like like Go, Python, D, ruby are mainly suitable for backend. It doesn't make sense to not use these JavaScript libraries for front-end. React, vue, angular and svelte will be the top 4. I don't see why you'd want an alternative you'd have to wait for compilation after every single change (that is even if htmx was ported to D).

On Tuesday, 21 May 2024 at 09:37:42 UTC, aberba wrote:

I am using Vibe.d for one of the application that I am currently working on. During development, I use the Live feature of Diet library so that I need not compile again for the HTML changes in diet file.

dub build --d-version=DietUseLive

After changing the diet template, browser refresh will show the latest changes (No need to run dub build).

Note: Please note, Live mode will not work as expected if lot of embeded D code used inside the diet template. Using Live mode is not recommended for production use (Refer: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/diet-ng/?tab=readme-ov-file#experimental-html-live-mode)

On Tuesday, 21 May 2024 at 03:37:11 UTC, aberba wrote:

We successfully use serverino+parserino for html serving.

Andrea

Note: Please note, Live mode will not work as expected if lot of embeded D code used inside the diet template. Using Live mode is not recommended for production use (Refer: https://github.com/rejectedsoftware/diet-ng/?tab=readme-ov-file#experimental-html-live-mode)

On Wednesday, 22 May 2024 at 16:22:42 UTC, Aravinda VK wrote:

Great to see other people find it useful!

To clarify a bit -- live mode does not include a D compiler, so it should work as long as any of your changes are to the html portion of the diet file. If any code has changed (including restructuring the code, like moving an interpolation outside a loop), then it's not just that it just won't render the changes, it actually will throw an exception, and refuse to render the template. The exception says as much. This is one of the main reasons it's not recommended for production -- you don't want to mess with the file and find it crashes your server.

Note that it still requires you to compile your templates into D code, because, well, there is no compiler to do it later!

I use live mode constantly, and vibe development is 10x better because of it.

If you are interested in compilation speed, you can use my dietpc pre-compiler and cache mode to avoid some of the giant memory/compilation time of diet templates.

https://github.com/schveiguy/dietpc

-Steve

On Wednesday, 22 May 2024 at 16:22:42 UTC, Aravinda VK wrote:

dub build --d-version=DietUseLive

Awesome. Interesting to know it works. Due to that statement, I never tried the live mode.

If I may ask, what other dub packages are you using?

On Wednesday, 22 May 2024 at 04:42:38 UTC, Andrea Fontana wrote:

Big fun of those two. I recently tried it and looks cool.

Would you consider a templating system at some point? I would love to be able to include header, footer, etc. in multiple pages.