The WinD site says,

"WinD is not multi-platform. I've seen many multi-platform GUI toolkits, enough to conclude that such a thing cannot be as powerful, small, and simple to use as a class library written for one single API native to the platform....WinD is not just a thin object-oriented layer over WinAPI. There are some, VXCL, for example, and I would also mention MFC here."

Partly right ("There are some") and partly wrong ("enough to conclude").

FOX is what you want.
http://www.fox-toolkit.org/goals.html

It would be tragic if D ended up a Windows-only tool.  I am encouraged by the Linux/GNU work going on with D.  Note that Macs now run Unix apps too.

Mark Evans



"FOX relies only on core system facilities, and does NOT wrap native GUI libraries or toolkits."

"Go to the Bedrock. FOX's core facilities needed from the target system are things like mouse/keyboard event handling, and basic graphics facilities ... If you want to build a big building, you need to go down to the solid bedrock.  This is what FOX does."

"Thus, by using core system facilities instead of higher-level transient API's, the impact of the underlying system's instability is minimized."

"FOX itself relies largely on FOX base classes, and therefore a large fraction of FOX itself is platform independent as well."

"One goal is for FOX to work with as many different compilers and development environments as possible."

"Automatic layout is a very usuful feature in FOX. It allows automatic placement of widgets in the desired arrangement without explicitly placing each widget in terms of position and size. Thus, changes in widget's contents, font, and language binding can be accomodated with ease."

"I have evaluated several different callback mechanisms, each have their different strengths and weaknesses....FOX's message handling system may not be type safe, but it is very compact, allows for run-time connectivity, is serializable, and favors component-oriented development."

"FOX is distributed in source form under LGPL"

Just a carification.  When I talk about Linux and D its because I'll only be testing it on Linux in the near future, as its what I have. Personally, my objective is to help make D as cross-platform as possible.  The GCC
compiler is available on every platform I've ever used (HP/UX, Sun, Windows, Linux, BSD, etc) and many I've not used and probably never will.  Our approach may only test on BSD and Linux.  Jan is a BSD-aphile, and I'm thirsty for one of the new powerbooks.  That doesn't mean its only for Linux or only for BSD or only for GNU or whathave you.
Granted, I think it will run better on the platforms its tested (hint) on, it "shouldn't" matter since we're only writing a front end, but it will matter.

-Andy

Mark Evans wrote:
> The WinD site says,
> 
> "WinD is not multi-platform. I've seen many multi-platform GUI
> toolkits, enough to conclude that such a thing cannot be as powerful,
> small, and simple to use as a class library written for one single API
> native to the platform....WinD is not just a thin object-oriented layer
> over WinAPI. There are some, VXCL, for example, and I would also mention
> MFC here."
> 
> Partly right ("There are some") and partly wrong ("enough to conclude").
> 
> FOX is what you want.
> http://www.fox-toolkit.org/goals.html
> 
> It would be tragic if D ended up a Windows-only tool.  I am encouraged
> by the Linux/GNU work going on with D.  Note that Macs now run Unix
> apps too.
> 
> Mark Evans
> 
> 
> 
> "FOX relies only on core system facilities, and does NOT wrap native
> GUI libraries or toolkits."
> 
> "Go to the Bedrock. FOX's core facilities needed from the target system
> are things like mouse/keyboard event handling, and basic graphics
> facilities ... If you want to build a big building, you need to go down
> to the solid bedrock.  This is what FOX does."
> 
> "Thus, by using core system facilities instead of higher-level
> transient API's, the impact of the underlying system's instability is
> minimized."
> 
> "FOX itself relies largely on FOX base classes, and therefore a large
> fraction of FOX itself is platform independent as well."
> 
> "One goal is for FOX to work with as many different compilers and
> development environments as possible."
> 
> "Automatic layout is a very usuful feature in FOX. It allows automatic
> placement of widgets in the desired arrangement without explicitly
> placing each widget in terms of position and size. Thus, changes in
> widget's contents, font, and language binding can be accomodated with
> ease."
> 
> "I have evaluated several different callback mechanisms, each have
> their different strengths and weaknesses....FOX's message handling
> system may not be type safe, but it is very compact, allows for
> run-time connectivity, is serializable, and favors component-oriented
> development."
> 
> "FOX is distributed in source form under LGPL"
> 
> 

"Mark Evans" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:afv6h1$20gk$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> It would be tragic if D ended up a Windows-only tool.  I am encouraged by the Linux/GNU work going on with D.  Note that Macs now run Unix apps too.

There's absolutely nothing in D that is Windows-specific. But there is plenty of room for, and need for, windows specific libraries (and linux specific libraries) for D.

D is designed to interface directly with the operating system APIs so that D is not married to a particular GUI (like Java is).