http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/The_Evolution_of_a_Programmer.html

"Mark Evans" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bb5sbc$1i3q$1@digitaldaemon.com...
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> http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/The_Evolution_of_a_Programmer.html

So true! I especially like the "Master Programmer".

"Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:bb694t$21km$1@digitaldaemon.com...
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> "Mark Evans" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bb5sbc$1i3q$1@digitaldaemon.com...
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> > http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/The_Evolution_of_a_Programmer.html
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> So true! I especially like the "Master Programmer".
>

I liked most Chief Executive :)

I have seen this may be 10 years ago when "Master Programmer" have been
 writting client served code for X Windows and not MS COM :o) Wondering,
 what this change does mean?

"Peter Hercek" <vvp@no.post.spam.sk> wrote in message news:bbjj8e$26gi$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> "Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:bb694t$21km$1@digitaldaemon.com...
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> > "Mark Evans" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bb5sbc$1i3q$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > >
> > > http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/The_Evolution_of_a_Programmer.html
> >
> > So true! I especially like the "Master Programmer".
> >
>
> I liked most Chief Executive :)
>
> I have seen this may be 10 years ago when "Master Programmer" have been
>  writting client served code for X Windows and not MS COM :o) Wondering,
>  what this change does mean?

:)

It means this "evolution of a programmer" is two-dimensional:

one is the evolution within the life of one person, and the other is the evolution of "the programmer", as a profession, over that decade.

As the CEO stuff is the same as 10 years ago [is it really?]
that also means the evolution of the manager (as a profession)
has already reached its final stage where there is nowhere
to develop further...

Sz.

"Luna Kid" <lunakid@neuropolis.org> wrote in message news:bbka16$2re2$1@digitaldaemon.com...
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> "Peter Hercek" <vvp@no.post.spam.sk> wrote in message news:bbjj8e$26gi$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > "Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:bb694t$21km$1@digitaldaemon.com...
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> > > "Mark Evans" <Mark_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bb5sbc$1i3q$1@digitaldaemon.com...
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> > > > http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/The_Evolution_of_a_Programmer.html
> > >
> > > So true! I especially like the "Master Programmer".
> > >
> >
> > I liked most Chief Executive :)
> >
> > I have seen this may be 10 years ago when "Master Programmer" have been
> >  writting client served code for X Windows and not MS COM :o) Wondering,
> >  what this change does mean?
>
> :)
>
> It means this "evolution of a programmer" is two-dimensional:
>
> one is the evolution within the life of one person, and the other is the evolution of "the programmer", as a profession, over that decade.
>
> As the CEO stuff is the same as 10 years ago [is it really?]
> that also means the evolution of the manager (as a profession)
> has already reached its final stage where there is nowhere
> to develop further...

Yep :o), CEO tried to use some unix terminal almost as a chat
 program ... had problems with "events" too.

Evolution ... good idea ... not sure whether the direction is right
 COM is still unecessary complicated at C/C++ level :-/
 Well you can generate a lot of it with some wizadards.

It seems like that was one of the main design points with COM, the ability to construct programs as data.

It seems useful.  Automating program-building will make all our lives easier.  I'd much rather work in a tree-view (you can sort by category, or alphabetically, etc) than in some unorganized (or worse, badly-organized) raw text file that usually doesn't even word wrap automatically.  So primitive.

I've messed with Optima++, Delphi, C#, they all seem to be headed in the same general direction.  It's too bad C# chose to hobble the programmers as they did.

Sean

"Peter Hercek" <vvp@no.post.spam.sk> wrote in message news:bbm9ug$1pit$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Evolution ... good idea ... not sure whether the direction is right
>  COM is still unecessary complicated at C/C++ level :-/
>  Well you can generate a lot of it with some wizadards.

"Sean L. Palmer" wrote:
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> It seems like that was one of the main design points with COM, the ability to construct programs as data.
> 
> It seems useful.  Automating program-building will make all our lives easier.  I'd much rather work in a tree-view (you can sort by category, or alphabetically, etc) than in some unorganized (or worse, badly-organized) raw text file that usually doesn't even word wrap automatically.  So primitive.
> 
> I've messed with Optima++, Delphi, C#, they all seem to be headed in the same general direction.  It's too bad C# chose to hobble the programmers as they did.

Then I think you should like the Lava programming language that turns
away from textual representations:
             <http://www.sit.fraunhofer.de/Lava/>

-- 
Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at
Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com

"Helmut Leitner" <leitner@hls.via.at> wrote in message news:3EE1AC63.722E0FAF@hls.via.at...
> "Sean L. Palmer" wrote:
> >
> > It seems like that was one of the main design points with COM, the
ability
> > to construct programs as data.
> >
> > It seems useful.  Automating program-building will make all our lives easier.  I'd much rather work in a tree-view (you can sort by category,
or
> > alphabetically, etc) than in some unorganized (or worse,
badly-organized)
> > raw text file that usually doesn't even word wrap automatically.  So primitive.
> >
> > I've messed with Optima++, Delphi, C#, they all seem to be headed in the same general direction.  It's too bad C# chose to hobble the programmers
as
> > they did.
>
> Then I think you should like the Lava programming language that turns
> away from textual representations:
>              <http://www.sit.fraunhofer.de/Lava/>

I do like it.  They make a lot of good points.

If someone could just gather up all the points made by all these language designers, solve them, and back the product by a company that's going to be around for a long time, and actually get the product out the door so I can use it, well that'd just be peachy.  ;)

Sean