I'm not even sure what should go into phobos,
but whatever it is could be done in a diferent way:

Walter, or some other very smart guy, could figure out
the desired interface to use with D.
Once the interface is design anyone interested on a particular
function could write the implementation for the system s/he is
familiar with.
Phobos source could be marked with "TODO" so with could just grep it
and see whats to do.
(I just tried (todo Todo TODO) that and come out empty
except for 2 entries of "not implemented")

maybe what I did for utils.Directory contents
(it's incomplete I think it's obvious)
could fit on this idea.

just a thought

Ant

BTW D has no future, I mean it:
If D is successful BigCompany will jump on it with a clone and kill it.
(maybe BigCompany will decide to buy DM(?))
BigCompany moto is "If you can't beat them, buy them".

"BigCompany" is a fictional company, any similarity with an existing software company is pure coincidence.

In article <bltfsu$1to9$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ant says...
>
>If D is successful BigCompany will jump on it with a clone and kill it.
>(maybe BigCompany will decide to buy DM(?))
>BigCompany moto is "If you can't beat them, buy them".
>
>"BigCompany" is a fictional company, any similarity with an existing software company is pure coincidence.

Well please take it with a smile!
anyway, on the list of time invested on D I must be
close to the top, and not giving up... ;)

Ant

"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bltfsu$1to9$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> BTW D has no future, I mean it:
> If D is successful BigCompany will jump on it with a clone and kill it.
> (maybe BigCompany will decide to buy DM(?))
> BigCompany moto is "If you can't beat them, buy them".
>
> "BigCompany" is a fictional company, any similarity with an existing software company is pure coincidence.

Since the front end of D is GPL'd, it cannot be killed that way. <g> It won't even be killed if everyone loses interest in it but me, as I will continue to make it better until it becomes interesting again. It would be helpful if some big company got behind D and pushed, but that is NOT necessary for D to be a big success.

D is already a successful new language, and it is growing rapidly. The number of new projects started with it and the support people are building for it is approaching critical mass.

"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bltjv5$23n8$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Well please take it with a smile!
> anyway, on the list of time invested on D I must be
> close to the top, and not giving up... ;)

I am told regularly that D cannot succeed. But it just keeps gaining momentum <g>.

In article <bltu31$2iql$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
>
>D is already a successful new language, and it is growing rapidly. The number of new projects started with it and the support people are building for it is approaching critical mass.

You know your section on the overview:
"Who D is Not For"?
it's completely wrong!
people is using D for most of those things!
That proves the quality of D,
it's passing the boundaries you set for it!

Ant

In article <bltfsu$1to9$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ant says...
>
>I'm not even sure what should go into phobos,
>but whatever it is could be done in a diferent way:

Let me give an example, maybe it will make my problem easier to see:

both me
http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?D/18025
and Burton Radons
http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?D/4753
posted a directory listing utility.

I don't see any of those going into the D libraries,
isn't there a way to better channel this energy into D?

Ant

"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:blu6tn$2uae$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> You know your section on the overview:
> "Who D is Not For"?
> it's completely wrong!
> people is using D for most of those things!
> That proves the quality of D,
> it's passing the boundaries you set for it!

I wrote that a long time ago. I guess I need to reread it and update it!

"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:bluafh$1ju$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> In article <bltfsu$1to9$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ant says...
> >
> >I'm not even sure what should go into phobos,
> >but whatever it is could be done in a diferent way:
>
> Let me give an example, maybe it will make my problem easier to see:
>
> both me
> http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?D/18025
> and Burton Radons
> http://www.digitalmars.com/drn-bin/wwwnews?D/4753
> posted a directory listing utility.
>
> I don't see any of those going into the D libraries,
> isn't there a way to better channel this energy into D?

D does need a directory package. I just haven't spent the time evaluating and integrating it. What I think we need is a central repository for such contributions as you listed. That way, there won't be duplication of effort, the various contributions won't get lost, even if they don't make it into Phobos they are still useful and available, etc. How about adapting Helmet's wiki?

In article <blv0n8$129n$3@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
>
>
>What I think we need is a central repository for such
>contributions as you listed. That way, there won't be duplication of effort,
>the various contributions won't get lost,

where is Benji?
seems that Benji is having something else more important/urgent todo.

>How about adapting Helmet's wiki?

Too much freedom, anybody can go there and delete the entries. (I tested by adding something and then delete it)

Ant

Ant wrote:
> 
> In article <blv0n8$129n$3@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
> >
> >
> >What I think we need is a central repository for such
> >contributions as you listed. That way, there won't be duplication of effort,
> >the various contributions won't get lost,
> 
> where is Benji?
> seems that Benji is having something else more important/urgent todo.
> 
> >How about adapting Helmet's wiki?
> 
> Too much freedom, anybody can go there and delete the entries. (I tested by adding something and then delete it)

Protection can be added to wiki pages, if there is a need.

But I think that Benji's repository inluding a subversion RCS will
be a more solid foundation for code-oriented things. The wiki is better
for text, cooperation, brainstorming, ideas, tutorials ...

I don't think that Benji has better things to do, it may only be a lot more work than he has thought. Let's be patient and hope that he'll successfully master all problems.

-- 
Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at
Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com