March 27, 2004
Subtitle:

ALL YOUR D ARE BELONG TO US!!

(you have no chance to survive make your time)




Ben Hinkle schrieb:

>>http://www.dsource.org
> 
> 
> cute name, too. I can almost hear the hallway conversations
> "Just go to dsource"
> "The source?"
> "No, dsource"
> "What source?"
> "D-e-e source!"
> "oh, that source."
> "no, not thatsource, dsource."
> "whatever"
> 
> ;-)
> 
March 27, 2004
In article <c435ig$1vcm$2@digitaldaemon.com>, Brad Anderson says...
>
>The company I work for has generously donated some bandwidth, but I fear this is not infinite.  I would like nothing more than to see this site become large enough to move out of our offices and require its own server space somewhere.

when that happens, maybe it will be time to move that project to SourceForge


March 27, 2004

Brad Anderson wrote:
> 
> http://www.dsource.org
> 
> J.C. Calvarese and I have been throwing together a website to host D projects.  It has been mentioned previously in the NG here, but with little follow-up.  As usual, jobs and other real-world stuff delayed us, but we finally have at least the framework of a site and wanted to ask everyone to pay us a quick visit.

That's a great step forward, thank you very much.

You could even integrate the wiki in a framed layout:
   <http://www.wikiservice.at/wiki4d/wikiframe.cgi>

Layout could be adapted to fit.

-- 
Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at
Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com
March 27, 2004
They set us up the bomb!

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:00:20 +0100, Ilya Minkov <minkov@cs.tum.edu> wrote:

> Subtitle:
>
> ALL YOUR D ARE BELONG TO US!!
>
> (you have no chance to survive make your time)
>
>
>
>
> Ben Hinkle schrieb:
>
>>> http://www.dsource.org
>>
>>
>> cute name, too. I can almost hear the hallway conversations
>> "Just go to dsource"
>> "The source?"
>> "No, dsource"
>> "What source?"
>> "D-e-e source!"
>> "oh, that source."
>> "no, not thatsource, dsource."
>> "whatever"
>>
>> ;-)
>>



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March 27, 2004
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:05:15 -0600, Brad Anderson <brad@dsource.dot.org> wrote:
> http://www.dsource.org
> 
It may not matter to you, but you should know that your site fails
miserably with the Opera 5  browser -- it displays only the tabs, and
nothing else.
Opera 5 is rather old, and often displays pages a little differently than
newer browsers, but this is the first site I have seen that doesn't
display at all

Karl Bochert


March 27, 2004
Karl Bochert wrote:
>>http://www.dsource.org
>>
> 
> It may not matter to you, but you should know that your site fails
> miserably with the Opera 5  browser -- it displays only the tabs, and
> nothing else.

It works fine with Opera 7. Maybe it's time to upgrade ;).
March 27, 2004
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:46:50 +0100, Hauke Duden <H.NS.Duden@gmx.net> wrote:
> Karl Bochert wrote:
> >>http://www.dsource.org
> >>
> > 
> > It may not matter to you, but you should know that your site fails miserably with the Opera 5  browser -- it displays only the tabs, and nothing else.
> 
> It works fine with Opera 7. Maybe it's time to upgrade ;).

Upgraded to Opera 7. Didn't work, Fatal errors. Moreover it
converted my Opera 5 from registered to adware.
Opera support no help with either problem.

I also use FireFox so Its not fatal.  On the other hand, it means that
dsource.com is doing something different than 99% of the sites
out there. (Some undocumented feature? etc.)
Being the !only site to break !any browser would worry me.


Karl Bochert


March 27, 2004
> 
> Upgraded to Opera 7. Didn't work, Fatal errors. Moreover it
> converted my Opera 5 from registered to adware.
> Opera support no help with either problem.
> 
> I also use FireFox so Its not fatal.  On the other hand, it means that
> dsource.com is doing something different than 99% of the sites
> out there. (Some undocumented feature? etc.)
> Being the !only site to break !any browser would worry me.
> 
> 
> Karl Bochert

Hmmmmm.... I look at it the other way.  Of all the browsers out there, yours appears to be the only one that doesn't work.  Mozilla/Firefox is one of the most standards compliant of browsers and works just fine at dsource.org (and many, many other sites). So do most of its derivatives: Epiphany, Konquerer, etc. It appears that the Opera browser is not up to standards or is buggy, if it doesn't work.

As for standards, it was my understanding that on the internet, such things are rather hit and miss.  For quite a few years, many websites were designed to operate with MS Internet Explorer only, a far from standards-compliant web-browser (but used by the majority of web surfers).

I say stick with firefox.
March 27, 2004
Opera 7 works fine here.  Site looks great.

C
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:59:04 -0800, John Reimer <jjreimer@telus.net> wrote:

>>
>> Upgraded to Opera 7. Didn't work, Fatal errors. Moreover it
>> converted my Opera 5 from registered to adware.
>> Opera support no help with either problem.
>>
>> I also use FireFox so Its not fatal.  On the other hand, it means that
>> dsource.com is doing something different than 99% of the sites
>> out there. (Some undocumented feature? etc.)
>> Being the !only site to break !any browser would worry me.
>>
>>
>> Karl Bochert
>
> Hmmmmm.... I look at it the other way.  Of all the browsers out there, yours appears to be the only one that doesn't work.  Mozilla/Firefox is one of the most standards compliant of browsers and works just fine at dsource.org (and many, many other sites). So do most of its derivatives: Epiphany, Konquerer, etc. It appears that the Opera browser is not up to standards or is buggy, if it doesn't work.
>
> As for standards, it was my understanding that on the internet, such things are rather hit and miss.  For quite a few years, many websites were designed to operate with MS Internet Explorer only, a far from standards-compliant web-browser (but used by the majority of web surfers).
>
> I say stick with firefox.



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March 27, 2004
Karl,

It matters quite a bit that someone cannot use the site.  No matter the browser, we want the content to be accessible.  There will be more browsers in the future, mostly mobile, so we want everyone to have access.  For this reason, we will most likely shy away from ActiveX, Flash, Shockwave, Java applets, etc.

Our goal was to be XHTML 1.0-compliant, and I checked our home page at the validator:

http://validator.w3.org

Sure enough, I had omitted all of the </li> tags from the lists.  We are now compliant on the home page.  I'm not sure if this matters to Opera 5, or if that browser is even capable of XHTML 1.0, but give it another try.  I will change the other pages in a day or so, and validate them all.

Thanks for the info.

BA



Karl Bochert wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:05:15 -0600, Brad Anderson <brad@dsource.dot.org> wrote:
> 
>>http://www.dsource.org
>>
> 
> It may not matter to you, but you should know that your site fails
> miserably with the Opera 5  browser -- it displays only the tabs, and
> nothing else.
> Opera 5 is rather old, and often displays pages a little differently than
> newer browsers, but this is the first site I have seen that doesn't
> display at all
> 
> Karl Bochert
> 
>