On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:59:04 -0800, John Reimer <jjreimer@telus.net> wrote:
> > 
> > Upgraded to Opera 7. Didn't work, Fatal errors. Moreover it
> > converted my Opera 5 from registered to adware.
> > Opera support no help with either problem.
> > 
> > I also use FireFox so Its not fatal.  On the other hand, it means that
> > dsource.com is doing something different than 99% of the sites
> > out there. (Some undocumented feature? etc.)
> > Being the !only site to break !any browser would worry me.
> > 
> > 
> > Karl Bochert
> 
> Hmmmmm.... I look at it the other way.  Of all the browsers out there, yours appears to be the only one that doesn't work.

No problem then -- I expect Opera5 to fail on more and more sites
as time goes by.  Probably there is some standard feature that dsource.org
is among the first to utilize.
I would not have mentioned it except that dsource.org is the very first
site that Opera 5 has failed to display at all.
Just another indication of how special D is ? :-)

> Mozilla/Firefox is one of the most standards compliant of browsers and works just fine at dsource.org (and many, many other sites). So do most of its derivatives: Epiphany, Konquerer, etc. It appears that the Opera browser is not up to standards or is buggy, if it doesn't work.

> 
> As for standards, it was my understanding that on the internet, such things are rather hit and miss.  For quite a few years, many websites were designed to operate with MS Internet Explorer only, a far from standards-compliant web-browser (but used by the majority of web surfers).
> 
> I say stick with firefox.

I mostly use FireFox -- It is very slow to load and crashes my system about 3
times a day. There appear to be timeslices where it ignores
mouse clicks. I can live with that, (it will get better),  but sometimes using
Opera5 and seeing it snap right up (and not crash) is a pleasure.

Karl Bochert

"Karl Bochert" <kbochert@copper.net> wrote in message news:1103_1080411934@bose...
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 00:05:15 -0600, Brad Anderson <brad@dsource.dot.org>
wrote:
> > http://www.dsource.org
> >
> It may not matter to you, but you should know that your site fails
> miserably with the Opera 5  browser -- it displays only the tabs, and
> nothing else.
> Opera 5 is rather old, and often displays pages a little differently than
> newer browsers, but this is the first site I have seen that doesn't
> display at all
>

Works just fine with Opera 7.23.

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Derek

Karl Bochert schrieb:

> I mostly use FireFox -- It is very slow to load and crashes my system about 3
> times a day. There appear to be timeslices where it ignores
> mouse clicks. I can live with that, (it will get better),  but sometimes using
> Opera5 and seeing it snap right up (and not crash) is a pleasure.

On my oldest and slowest computer, i use K-Meleon (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/), which is a Mozilla-based ultra-lightweight Windiws browser initiated by the guys at AEGIS Corp. (http://www.pouet.net/groups.php?which=136) It loads within a fraction of a second on a Pentium MMX notebook with 64 MB RAM. It has some bugs and might crash, as opposed to the (rather slow) mega-mozilla i use here, although if i recall correctly i haven't experienced any more crashes since the most recent upgrade. But it loads and runs much faster than Firebird/Firefox and than MSIE. It has a lot of possibility for configuration.

-eye

> 
> No problem then -- I expect Opera5 to fail on more and more sites
> as time goes by.  Probably there is some standard feature that dsource.org
> is among the first to utilize.
> I would not have mentioned it except that dsource.org is the very first
> site that Opera 5 has failed to display at all.
> Just another indication of how special D is ? :-)
> 

Well, I have to make a disclaimer: these opinions are my own, so you issues may matter very much to the people designing the site.  I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I spoke for them.  Brad and Justin seem very intent on doing anything they can to make the site usable by everybody.  Bravo to them for that.

> 
> I mostly use FireFox -- It is very slow to load and crashes my system about 3
> times a day. There appear to be timeslices where it ignores
> mouse clicks. I can live with that, (it will get better),  but sometimes using
> Opera5 and seeing it snap right up (and not crash) is a pleasure.
> 
> Karl Bochert
> 

It seems strange that Firefox crashes on your system.  It's actually a very stable browser.  Nonetheless, I wish you the best of luck in finding a solution.  It looks like Brad is trying to do what he can to fix things too.  So your complaint was not unwarranted, perhaps.

Later,

John

>
>On my oldest and slowest computer, i use K-Meleon (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/), which is a Mozilla-based ultra-lightweight Windiws browser initiated by the guys at AEGIS Corp. (http://www.pouet.net/groups.php?which=136) It loads within a fraction of a second on a Pentium MMX notebook with 64 MB RAM. It has some bugs and might crash, as opposed to the (rather slow) mega-mozilla i use here, although if i recall correctly i haven't experienced any more crashes since the most recent upgrade. But it loads and runs much faster than Firebird/Firefox and than MSIE. It has a lot of possibility for configuration.
>
>-eye

I like Mozilla : sure, its a little slow starting up, but on my Athlon XP 2200+, it's really not that much of a problem. I have firefox too, but don't really use it.

What really sucks is this Longhorn build I got (build 4051): it's very glitchy!
The screen flashes and freezed all the time (which is cured in about 3 sec.)
but, it does have it's perks...

> I mostly use FireFox -- It is very slow to load and crashes my system
about 3
> times a day. There appear to be timeslices where it ignores
> mouse clicks. I can live with that, (it will get better),  but sometimes
using
> Opera5 and seeing it snap right up (and not crash) is a pleasure.
>

I always use firefox, and it has never crashed since
I installed it.
So perhaps Firefox isnt the problem.

Phill.

> Karl Bochert
>
>


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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 07:57:35 -0500, Ben Hinkle <bhinkle4@juno.com> wrote:

>
>> http://www.dsource.org
>
> cute name, too. I can almost hear the hallway conversations
> "Just go to dsource"
> "The source?"
> "No, dsource"
> "What source?"
> "D-e-e source!"
> "oh, that source."
> "no, not thatsource, dsource."
> "whatever"
>
> ;-)
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:02:14 +0000, Karl Bochert wrote:


> I mostly use FireFox -- It is very slow to load and crashes my system about 3
> times a day. There appear to be timeslices where it ignores
> mouse clicks. I can live with that, (it will get better),  but sometimes using
> Opera5 and seeing it snap right up (and not crash) is a pleasure.
> 
> Karl Bochert

my firefox started crashing when I upgraded to xfree 4.4
(I don't know what OS you use - mine is linux 2.6.0)
and stoped crashing when I installed mozilla 1.7b
(probably firefox is using the new mozilla installation)

Ant

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 00:18:14 -0500, Ant wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:02:14 +0000, Karl Bochert wrote:
> 
> 
>> I mostly use FireFox -- It is very slow to load and crashes my system about 3
>> times a day. There appear to be timeslices where it ignores
>> mouse clicks. I can live with that, (it will get better),  but sometimes using
>> Opera5 and seeing it snap right up (and not crash) is a pleasure.
>> 
>> Karl Bochert
> 
> my firefox started crashing when I upgraded to xfree 4.4
> (I don't know what OS you use - mine is linux 2.6.0)
> and stoped crashing when I installed mozilla 1.7b
> (probably firefox is using the new mozilla installation)
> 
> Ant

allow me to add that I tried to use mozilla for 2 days
but I didn't liked it.
I used galeon before firebird (that was before firefox).

Ant