July 27, 2004 Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Berin Loritsch | In article <ce5kea$25vg$2@digitaldaemon.com>, Berin Loritsch says... > >Phill wrote: > >> "me" <memsom@interalpha.co.uk> wrote in message news:ce1g92$2u8o$1@digitaldaemon.com... >> >>>"Phill" <phill@pacific.net.au> wrote in message news:cduuul$1e7c$1@digitaldaemon.com... >>> >>>>I use DIDE, its great and ive had no problems >>>>with it. >>> >>>Unfortunately, the guy who wrote DIDE has withdrawn it and is planning to rewrite the IDE from scratch. Why we loose DIDE is beyond me, but this >> >> seems >> >>>to be one big whim on his part. Let's hope he sees sense ;-) >>> >> >> >> Is that true? >> >> I am almost certainly migrating, so I will probably be using Ants LEDS. >> >> Phill. > >LEDS? > >DIDE is gone, so unless someone has a spare copy that can be downloaded, the one on the site is gone. So this is the big opportunity for leds to grab some market share! ;) Charles, you shouldn't drop your users like that! I'll be releasing a new leds version soon. I'll take any help I can get for the windows version. (the windows version is still not usable) Ant http://leds.sourceforge.net |
July 27, 2004 Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ant | Ant wrote:
> In article <ce5kea$25vg$2@digitaldaemon.com>, Berin Loritsch says...
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>>LEDS?
>>
>>DIDE is gone, so unless someone has a spare copy that can be downloaded,
>>the one on the site is gone.
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> So this is the big opportunity for leds to grab some market share! ;)
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> Charles, you shouldn't drop your users like that!
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> I'll be releasing a new leds version soon.
> I'll take any help I can get for the windows version.
> (the windows version is still not usable)
Doh!
I'm using Windows :(
I have been told to migrate to a real OS many times, but its not an easy
transition.
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July 27, 2004 (OT - Gentoo) Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Berin Loritsch | Berin Loritsch wrote:
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> I have been told to migrate to a real OS many times, but its not an easy
> transition.
Especially if you ask about certain ones on this NG ;).
For you, and Phill, and all others, I recommend Gentoo Linux. I don't want to start an off-topic thread / holy war about flavors of Linux, but for the newbies who are not terribly pressed for time, I think Gentoo is a great platform.
It is incredibly well-documented and if you choose to do the long install (from Stage 1), you will learn a tremendous amount about how Linux systems in general work. It took me a weekend (on and off) to get my first system up and going, but I've done it in 8 hrs with an old PC, no fancy disk subsystem, etc.
And, after you have a Gentoo system up and running, the Portage system is a dream to work with. Interdependencies are solved for you, and everything is built from scratch (but in an automated way). You don't end up in Fedora/RedHat RPM dependency hell. It's not quite as deep as Windows DLL hell, but it's down there as far as the circles go.
Just my US$0.02
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July 28, 2004 Re: (OT - Gentoo) Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Brad Anderson | Brad Anderson wrote:
> Berin Loritsch wrote:
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>>
>> I have been told to migrate to a real OS many times, but its not an easy
>> transition.
>
>
> Especially if you ask about certain ones on this NG ;).
>
> For you, and Phill, and all others, I recommend Gentoo Linux. I don't want to start an off-topic thread / holy war about flavors of Linux, but for the newbies who are not terribly pressed for time, I think Gentoo is a great platform.
>
> It is incredibly well-documented and if you choose to do the long install (from Stage 1), you will learn a tremendous amount about how Linux systems in general work. It took me a weekend (on and off) to get my first system up and going, but I've done it in 8 hrs with an old PC, no fancy disk subsystem, etc.
>
> And, after you have a Gentoo system up and running, the Portage system is a dream to work with. Interdependencies are solved for you, and everything is built from scratch (but in an automated way). You don't end up in Fedora/RedHat RPM dependency hell. It's not quite as deep as Windows DLL hell, but it's down there as far as the circles go.
>
>
> Just my US$0.02
Ive installed Fedora today and also the JDK, DMD, DUI everything looks ok so far.
I have a couple of even dumber questions than the one that I
asked the other day, but I dare not too here.
I didnt actually go cold turkey, instead I chickened out and partitioned
my HD, so I could still keep XP. At the moment I need it because there are a few things that I havent found yet, like something to play .mov files taken on my digital camera.
Thanks for the tip, I will keep it in mind if things get tough over here.
Phill.
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July 28, 2004 Re: (OT - Gentoo) Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Brad Anderson | Brad Anderson wrote:
> Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
>>
>> I have been told to migrate to a real OS many times, but its not an easy
>> transition.
>
>
> Especially if you ask about certain ones on this NG ;).
>
> For you, and Phill, and all others, I recommend Gentoo Linux. I don't want to start an off-topic thread / holy war about flavors of Linux, but for the newbies who are not terribly pressed for time, I think Gentoo is a great platform.
>
> It is incredibly well-documented and if you choose to do the long install (from Stage 1), you will learn a tremendous amount about how Linux systems in general work. It took me a weekend (on and off) to get my first system up and going, but I've done it in 8 hrs with an old PC, no fancy disk subsystem, etc.
>
> And, after you have a Gentoo system up and running, the Portage system is a dream to work with. Interdependencies are solved for you, and everything is built from scratch (but in an automated way). You don't end up in Fedora/RedHat RPM dependency hell. It's not quite as deep as Windows DLL hell, but it's down there as far as the circles go.
>
>
> Just my US$0.02
Ive installed Fedora today and also the JDK, DMD, DUI everything looks ok so far.
I have a couple of even dumber questions than the one that I
asked the other day, but I dare not too here.
I didnt actually go cold turkey, instead I chickened out and partitioned
my HD, so I could still keep XP. At the moment I need it because there are a few things that I havent found yet, like something to play .mov files taken on my digital camera.
Thanks for the tip, I will keep it in mind if things get tough over here.
Phill.
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July 28, 2004 Re: (OT dumb joke OT - Gentoo) Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Phill | In article <41078BF9.4000001@pacific.net.au>, Phill says... > >Ive installed Fedora today and also the JDK, DMD, DUI everything looks ok so far. What? you say DUI doesn't come standard and doesn't install by default? I better call the guys... Ant |
July 28, 2004 Re: (OT - Gentoo) Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Phill | Phill wrote:
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> I didnt actually go cold turkey, instead I chickened out and partitioned my HD, so I could still keep XP. At the moment I need it because there are a few things that I havent found yet, like something to play .mov files taken on my digital camera.
Try with mplayer or GUI derivatives (gmplayer, kmplayer, etc.)
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July 28, 2004 Re: (OT - Gentoo) Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Phill | On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 21:20:25 +1000, Phill <phill@pacific.net.au> wrote: > Brad Anderson wrote: >> Berin Loritsch wrote: >> >>> >>> I have been told to migrate to a real OS many times, but its not an easy >>> transition. >> >> >> Especially if you ask about certain ones on this NG ;). >> >> For you, and Phill, and all others, I recommend Gentoo Linux. I don't want to start an off-topic thread / holy war about flavors of Linux, but for the newbies who are not terribly pressed for time, I think Gentoo is a great platform. >> >> It is incredibly well-documented and if you choose to do the long install (from Stage 1), you will learn a tremendous amount about how Linux systems in general work. It took me a weekend (on and off) to get my first system up and going, but I've done it in 8 hrs with an old PC, no fancy disk subsystem, etc. >> >> And, after you have a Gentoo system up and running, the Portage system is a dream to work with. Interdependencies are solved for you, and everything is built from scratch (but in an automated way). You don't end up in Fedora/RedHat RPM dependency hell. It's not quite as deep as Windows DLL hell, but it's down there as far as the circles go. >> >> >> Just my US$0.02 > Ive installed Fedora today and also the JDK, DMD, DUI everything looks ok so far. > > I have a couple of even dumber questions than the one that I > asked the other day, but I dare not too here. > > I didnt actually go cold turkey, instead I chickened out and partitioned > my HD, so I could still keep XP. I chickened out even further, my linux install runs in a virtual machine. VMware is sooo coool. > At the moment I need it because there are a few things that I havent found yet, like something to play .mov files taken on my digital camera. > > Thanks for the tip, I will keep it in mind if things get tough over here. -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
July 29, 2004 Re: (OT - Gentoo) Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Juanjo Álvarez | Juanjo Álvarez wrote:
> Phill wrote:
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>>I didnt actually go cold turkey, instead I chickened out and partitioned
>>my HD, so I could still keep XP. At the moment I need it because there
>>are a few things that I havent found yet, like something to play .mov
>>files taken on my digital camera.
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> Try with mplayer or GUI derivatives (gmplayer, kmplayer, etc.)
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Thanks, I will try them!
Phill.
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July 29, 2004 Re: (OT dumb joke OT - Gentoo) Re: Development Environment? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ant | Ant wrote:
> In article <41078BF9.4000001@pacific.net.au>, Phill says...
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>>Ive installed Fedora today and also the JDK, DMD, DUI everything looks ok so far.
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>
> What? you say DUI doesn't come standard and doesn't install by default?
> I better call the guys...
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> Ant
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>
Are you saying that DUI comes standard with Fedora?
That is a surprise, considering D doesnt, or dont tell
me D is also standard?
Phill.
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