I need some help here. How am I supposed to debug an application which doesn't even start? According to WinDbg it raises an unknown exception in KiFastCall, when executing the instruction "sysenter". It doesn't even reach main or the module ctors! Has anyone had that problem before? TIA.

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Carlos Santander Bernal

Carlos Santander B. wrote:
> I need some help here. How am I supposed to debug an application which doesn't even start? According to WinDbg it raises an unknown exception in KiFastCall, when executing the instruction "sysenter". It doesn't even reach main or the module ctors! Has anyone had that problem before? TIA.
> 
> -----------------------
> Carlos Santander Bernal 

Sounds like a weird problem.

I would suspect you could approach it the same as you would when trying to isolate a small test case for reporting a compile-time bug. Whether it's the compiler's fault or a mistake that you might have made, once you get it down to 20 lines or so, you could post it here or in the bugs newsgroup and ask for help. As long as you're cutting out code while retaining the non-starting error, you'd be making progress.

How long is the source code right now?

-- 
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In article <ck4efu$2rr5$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Carlos Santander B. says...
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>I need some help here. How am I supposed to debug an application which doesn't even start? According to WinDbg it raises an unknown exception in KiFastCall, when executing the instruction "sysenter". It doesn't even reach main or the module ctors! Has anyone had that problem before? TIA.
>
>-----------------------
>Carlos Santander Bernal
>

I'm sure you know this but as this is public let me just remind
every body that the static constructores are executed before the main function.

Ant

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:ck4fnb$2stj$1@digitaldaemon.com...
| Carlos Santander B. wrote:
| > I need some help here. How am I supposed to debug an application which
doesn't
| > even start? According to WinDbg it raises an unknown exception in
KiFastCall,
| > when executing the instruction "sysenter". It doesn't even reach main or the
| > module ctors! Has anyone had that problem before? TIA.
| >
| > -----------------------
| > Carlos Santander Bernal
|
| Sounds like a weird problem.
|
| I would suspect you could approach it the same as you would when trying
| to isolate a small test case for reporting a compile-time bug. Whether
| it's the compiler's fault or a mistake that you might have made, once
| you get it down to 20 lines or so, you could post it here or in the bugs
| newsgroup and ask for help. As long as you're cutting out code while
| retaining the non-starting error, you'd be making progress.
|
| How long is the source code right now?
|
| --
| Justin (a/k/a jcc7)
| http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

Do you remember the Apollo library? It's not dead (or at least wasn't): I've kept making sure things compile and run, and adding a few things from time to time. But since DMD 0.102 I had this problem. So it's not very simple since it involves a Delphi DLL. Apparently it's not called, but I don't know how to prove it. What I'm saying is, it's not easy to reduce. I just thought someone might've had this problem before.

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Carlos Santander Bernal

In article <ck4efu$2rr5$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Carlos Santander B. says...
>
>I need some help here. How am I supposed to debug an application which doesn't even start? According to WinDbg it raises an unknown exception in KiFastCall, when executing the instruction "sysenter". It doesn't even reach main or the module ctors! Has anyone had that problem before? TIA.
>
>-----------------------
>Carlos Santander Bernal

not before but since... right now.

the difference is that I don't have a debuger.
what do I do?
this is windows 2000 dmd 0.102

can't create a small example.

Ant

"Ant" <Ant_member@pathlink.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:ck4rgb$gse$1@digitaldaemon.com...
| In article <ck4efu$2rr5$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Carlos Santander B. says...
| >
| >I need some help here. How am I supposed to debug an application which
doesn't
| >even start? According to WinDbg it raises an unknown exception in KiFastCall,
| >when executing the instruction "sysenter". It doesn't even reach main or the
| >module ctors! Has anyone had that problem before? TIA.
| >
| >-----------------------
| >Carlos Santander Bernal
|
| not before but since... right now.
|
| the difference is that I don't have a debuger.
| what do I do?
| this is windows 2000 dmd 0.102
|
| can't create a small example.
|
| Ant
|
|

To download WinDbg go to
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/installx86.mspx.
To use it with D, compile with "-g". Then go to WinDbg and open the exe (Ctrl+E)
and then open whatever source file your interested in (Ctrl+O). Set breakpoints,
etc.

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Carlos Santander Bernal

Carlos Santander B. wrote:
> "J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> escribió en el mensaje news:ck4fnb$2stj$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> | Carlos Santander B. wrote:
> | > I need some help here. How am I supposed to debug an application which doesn't
> | > even start? According to WinDbg it raises an unknown exception in KiFastCall,
> | > when executing the instruction "sysenter". It doesn't even reach main or the
> | > module ctors! Has anyone had that problem before? TIA.
> | >
> | > -----------------------
> | > Carlos Santander Bernal
> |
> | Sounds like a weird problem.
> |
> | I would suspect you could approach it the same as you would when trying
> | to isolate a small test case for reporting a compile-time bug. Whether
> | it's the compiler's fault or a mistake that you might have made, once
> | you get it down to 20 lines or so, you could post it here or in the bugs
> | newsgroup and ask for help. As long as you're cutting out code while
> | retaining the non-starting error, you'd be making progress.
> |
> | How long is the source code right now?
> |
> | -- | Justin (a/k/a jcc7)
> | http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
> 
> Do you remember the Apollo library? 

Sure.

> It's not dead (or at least wasn't): I've 

Cool.

> kept making sure things compile and run, and adding a few things from time to time. But since DMD 0.102 I had this problem. So it's not very simple since it involves a Delphi DLL. Apparently it's not called, but I don't know how to prove 

If you haven't changed the DLL, it certainly could be something wrong with the latest D compiler. (Ah, the blame game...)

Have you tried removing the dependency on the DLL? (Or does absolutely all of the program depend on the DLL?)

> it. What I'm saying is, it's not easy to reduce. I just thought someone might've 

Yeah, I didn't realize a DLL was involved. If the DLL is involved, it's probably not easy to reduce.

> had this problem before.
> 
> -----------------------
> Carlos Santander Bernal 


-- 
Justin (a/k/a jcc7)
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

In article <ck4r3n$gl1$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Carlos Santander B. says...
>
>"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> escribió en el mensaje
>news:ck4fnb$2stj$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>| Carlos Santander B. wrote:
>| > I need some help here. How am I supposed to debug an application which
>doesn't
>| > even start? According to WinDbg it raises an unknown exception in
>KiFastCall,
>| > when executing the instruction "sysenter". It doesn't even reach main or the
>| > module ctors! Has anyone had that problem before? TIA.
>| >
>| > -----------------------
>| > Carlos Santander Bernal
>|
>| Sounds like a weird problem.
>|
>| I would suspect you could approach it the same as you would when trying
>| to isolate a small test case for reporting a compile-time bug. Whether
>| it's the compiler's fault or a mistake that you might have made, once
>| you get it down to 20 lines or so, you could post it here or in the bugs
>| newsgroup and ask for help. As long as you're cutting out code while
>| retaining the non-starting error, you'd be making progress.
>|
>| How long is the source code right now?
>|
>| --
>| Justin (a/k/a jcc7)
>| http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
>
>Do you remember the Apollo library? It's not dead (or at least wasn't): I've kept making sure things compile and run, and adding a few things from time to time. But since DMD 0.102 I had this problem.

So you didn't change a thing.

Mine compiles and runs correctly on linux but not on windows (XP no 2000).
This is a compiler bug the applications should reach main
or issue an error.
My main and all static constructors have a printf as first statment.
I'm posting a link to this on the bugs group.

Ant