D looks like an interesting language and I'm interested in moving on D.
But... let's be real. I mean the competition with .NET is incredible and with the pressure we get to produce lines of code, an excellent IDE with integrated debugging is a must. Just because of that, there is little chance I move on D before I retire and (unfortunately) this won't be tomorrow.
DIDE was the most promissing IDE project but for some reason it retired.
What serious alternative do we have?

"Rox271" <rox271@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d084fd$2i6l$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>D looks like an interesting language and I'm interested in moving on D.
> But... let's be real. I mean the competition with .NET is incredible and
> with the pressure we get to produce lines of code, an excellent IDE with
> integrated debugging is a must. Just because of that, there is little
> chance I move on D before I retire and (unfortunately) this won't be
> tomorrow.
> DIDE was the most promissing IDE project but for some reason it retired.
> What serious alternative do we have?

Add-ons to existng IDE's, such as
http://www.dsource.org/projects/dcoder/  (For Visual Studio .NET)
http://reverie.xrea.jp/wiki/VSpluginD.html  (Also for Visual Studio .NET)
http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/xcode/ (For XCode)

And I'm sure there will be an addin for Eclipse at some point as well, if there isn't already.

Personally, I think solid support from exiting IDE's (through either add-ins or enhancements to the IDE's core) is a much better solution than just building an entirely new IDE from scratch. The current IDE addins for D still need some work, but IDE addins in general are fairly simple/easy projects, especially compared to building an entire IDE. So I think decent ones could emerge fairly quickly.

Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "Rox271" <rox271@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d084fd$2i6l$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> 
>>D looks like an interesting language and I'm interested in moving on D.
>>But... let's be real. I mean the competition with .NET is incredible and with the pressure we get to produce lines of code, an excellent IDE with integrated debugging is a must. Just because of that, there is little chance I move on D before I retire and (unfortunately) this won't be tomorrow.
>>DIDE was the most promissing IDE project but for some reason it retired.
>>What serious alternative do we have?
> 
> 
> Add-ons to existng IDE's, such as
> http://www.dsource.org/projects/dcoder/  (For Visual Studio .NET)
> http://reverie.xrea.jp/wiki/VSpluginD.html  (Also for Visual Studio .NET)
> http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/xcode/ (For XCode)
> 
> And I'm sure there will be an addin for Eclipse at some point as well, if there isn't already.
> 
> Personally, I think solid support from exiting IDE's (through either add-ins or enhancements to the IDE's core) is a much better solution than just building an entirely new IDE from scratch. The current IDE addins for D still need some work, but IDE addins in general are fairly simple/easy projects, especially compared to building an entire IDE. So I think decent ones could emerge fairly quickly. 
> 
> 
Many thanks for this information.
Actually I already tried some of these solutions and was not convinced.
Do you think any of these solutions actually compete with the native C++ support of VisualStudion.NET? My concern is also that by now D is no more a brand new project and there is still no solution emerging.

Rox271 wrote:

> support of VisualStudion.NET? My concern is also that by now D is no more a brand new project and there is still no solution emerging.

You can hardly expect major tools for D to be developed until after 1.0 is released. Tools that have been created to date have been developed by individuals in the D community, the active segment of which is still quite small. Solid tools exist for Java and C++ because those languages have been in widespread use for years. As the D community grows, the demand for a D IDE will grow and someone (or some company) will step in to meet it. Granted, a quality IDE is a big plus, but the lack of one now is nothing to be concerned about.