http://www.cabochon.com/~stevey/blog-rants/tour-de-babel.html

Walter Bright wrote:
> http://www.cabochon.com/~stevey/blog-rants/tour-de-babel.html 
> 
> 

> I loved C++ in college, because it's all I knew. When I heard that my
> languages prof, Craig Chambers, absolutely detested C++, I thought:
> "Why? I like it just fine."


Just like me!!
I used to love C++, because it was all I knew! When I heard my prof (who also goes by the first name Craig) say it's the worst language he'd used, I thought to myself, "Why? it's a great language!"
Now I hate C++!

>C++ is the dumbest language on earth
so true!

Walter Bright wrote:

> http://www.cabochon.com/~stevey/blog-rants/tour-de-babel.html

Has anyone told him about D yet?

In article <dv2gj0$169t$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter Bright says...
>
>http://www.cabochon.com/~stevey/blog-rants/tour-de-babel.html

I think it's wiser to use just a subset of C++ features (the good and useful ones)  than to make fun of or utter than you hate the language. I do also dislike very C++ things and also hate other languages (as Perl for example). But I know they could be useful if wisely used. In the same way I actually love D, I do also miss features that it lacks (e.g. constness) and not because of that I stand against it. IMHO that article is more making fun of languages with which the author doesn't like than anything else.

Tom;

> IMHO that article is more making fun of languages with which
> the author doesn't like than anything else.

Yes, but alot of his rants ring true for me.  Like whitespace and python , any language that makes whitespace meaningful is hard to take seriously.

> All of the greatest engineers in the world use Emacs

So true :).


> Emacs has the Quality Without a Name.

I think D shares this Quality.


Charlie

Tom wrote:
> In article <dv2gj0$169t$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter Bright says...
> 
>>http://www.cabochon.com/~stevey/blog-rants/tour-de-babel.html 
> 
> 
> I think it's wiser to use just a subset of C++ features (the good and useful
> ones)  than to make fun of or utter than you hate the language. I do also
> dislike very C++ things and also hate other languages (as Perl for example). But
> I know they could be useful if wisely used. In the same way I actually love D, I
> do also miss features that it lacks (e.g. constness) and not because of that I
> stand against it. IMHO that article is more making fun of languages with which
> the author doesn't like than anything else.
> 
> Tom;

In article <4415EF50.7010101@nowhere.com>, Charles says...
>
> > IMHO that article is more making fun of languages with which the author doesn't like than anything else.
>
>Yes, but alot of his rants ring true for me.  Like whitespace and python , any language that makes whitespace meaningful is hard to take seriously.
>

Theres nothing wrong with the indentation (imo), its the required newline problem that kills Python for me.

Charles wrote:
>  > IMHO that article is more making fun of languages with which
>  > the author doesn't like than anything else.
> 
> Yes, but alot of his rants ring true for me.  Like whitespace and python , any language that makes whitespace meaningful is hard to take seriously.

That's a completely irrational argument.

> 
>> All of the greatest engineers in the world use Emacs
> 
> So true :).
> 

I think emacs is stupid. :)

Hasan Aljudy wrote:
> Charles wrote:
>>  > IMHO that article is more making fun of languages with which
>>  > the author doesn't like than anything else.
>>
>> Yes, but alot of his rants ring true for me.  Like whitespace and python , any language that makes whitespace meaningful is hard to take seriously.
> 
> That's a completely irrational argument.
> 
>>
>>> All of the greatest engineers in the world use Emacs
>>
>> So true :).
>>
> 
> I think emacs is stupid. :)

Have you ever seen an experienced emacs user work? o_0

In article <dv4uo9$1337$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Hasan Aljudy says...
>
>Charles wrote:
>>  > IMHO that article is more making fun of languages with which
>>  > the author doesn't like than anything else.
>> 
>> Yes, but alot of his rants ring true for me.  Like whitespace and python , any language that makes whitespace meaningful is hard to take seriously.
>
>That's a completely irrational argument.

I disagree. Python will complain about invisible errors due to its reverence for whitespace.

I wasted a ridiculous amount of time before I figured out that Python wouldn't compile my program because it saw a difference between a tab and the equivalent number of spaces. Now I know what I did was wrong, but a tab and several spaces still look identical on my screen. IMHO Python would be better if it used something visible (such of {}, begin/end, etc.).

jcc7

J C Calvarese wrote:
> In article <dv4uo9$1337$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Hasan Aljudy says...
> 
>>Charles wrote:
>>
>>> > IMHO that article is more making fun of languages with which
>>> > the author doesn't like than anything else.
>>>
>>>Yes, but alot of his rants ring true for me.  Like whitespace and python , any language that makes whitespace meaningful is hard to take seriously.
>>
>>That's a completely irrational argument.
> 
> 
> I disagree. Python will complain about invisible errors due to its reverence for
> whitespace.
> 
> I wasted a ridiculous amount of time before I figured out that Python wouldn't
> compile my program because it saw a difference between a tab and the equivalent
> number of spaces. Now I know what I did was wrong, but a tab and several spaces
> still look identical on my screen. IMHO Python would be better if it used
> something visible (such of {}, begin/end, etc.).
> 
> jcc7

Good point.
I say the clurpit is the evil tab character, it should be removed from all computer systems in the world!! :P
The "Tab" keyboard button should just be a `macro` for 4 spaces, not a separate character!!