Hello, I am a newbie with D, and I wrote a little binding for the IUP free multiplatform (windows/unix) toolkit.

More details here:

http://cablemodem.fibertel.com.ar/lateral/weblog/2006/04/18.html#P359

Not very D-ist (you write pretty much in C ;-) but it seems to be working.

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> Hello, I am a newbie with D,
<snip>

And a newbie with newsgroups as well I see.

Newsreaders allow you to post a single message to two or more newsgroups
simultaneously.  This is called crossposting, and is the only
appropriate way to share a message across multiple newsgroups.

Please see

http://smjg.port5.com/faqs/usenet/xpost.html
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html

and then, since you've multiposted this time, pick a 'group on which you
would like people to answer you.

Stewart.

In article <e22g67$2hkq$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
>
>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> Hello, I am a newbie with D,
><snip>
>
>And a newbie with newsgroups as well I see.

Oh, sure. I wrote a goddamn newsreader in 1997, though.

I just had never used this web interface. But what the heck. I had forgotten how usenet was. Thanks for reminding me, oh annoying guy.

I shouldn't have posted this message, but really... you just pissed me off.

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> In article <e22g67$2hkq$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
> 
>>Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>
>>>Hello, I am a newbie with D,
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>And a newbie with newsgroups as well I see.
> 
> 
> Oh, sure. I wrote a goddamn newsreader in 1997, though.
> 
> I just had never used this web interface. But what the heck. I had forgotten how usenet was. Thanks for reminding me, oh annoying guy.
> 
> I shouldn't have posted this message, but really... you just pissed me off.
> 

There's the problem right there: the evil web interface.  General concensus is that it really isn't useful for participating.  It has its uses for archival purposes, and that's about it.

-- Chris Nicholson-Sauls

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> In article <e22g67$2hkq$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
>> Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>> Hello, I am a newbie with D,
>> <snip>
>>
>> And a newbie with newsgroups as well I see.
> 
> Oh, sure. I wrote a goddamn newsreader in 1997, though.
> 
> I just had never used this web interface. But what the heck. I had forgotten how usenet was. Thanks for reminding me, oh annoying guy.
> 
> I shouldn't have posted this message, but really... you just pissed me off.
> 
> 


I'm not sure why Stewart suddenly felt obligated to post this.  This isn't Usenet.  I saw no problems with your postings.

It's strange to watch how people start making decisions about how the newsgroup is to be run (for the most part, I haven't seen much of that here over the years: people have been quite relaxed about the thing). This newsgroup has no moderation or authority to control it, as far as I see beyond the responses of the community itself.  Not to say that it doesn't need such control, but that authority hasn't been given to anybody here in particular, let alone Stewart.  So I suggest you not worry about his post until some official word states that he is given a special moderation task for this newsgroup (or the members start backing up his request).

Sorry Stewart, I don't want to annoy you, but you seem overly officious here.  You come across just as abrasive and abrupt as you might have accused Matthew of some time ago.

I guess some people like taking things into their own hands if they think they see the need.  I just don't understand that in this case.

-JJR

Roberto Alsina wrote:
> In article <e22g67$2hkq$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
>> Roberto Alsina wrote:
>>> Hello, I am a newbie with D,
>> <snip>
>>
>> And a newbie with newsgroups as well I see.
> 
> Oh, sure. I wrote a goddamn newsreader in 1997, though.
> 
> I just had never used this web interface. But what the heck. I had forgotten how usenet was. Thanks for reminding me, oh annoying guy.
> 
> I shouldn't have posted this message, but really... you just pissed me off.
> 
> 

I would say, given the situation, that Steward's supposition that you were a newsgroups newbie, although it turned out false, was quite plausible. (I would have inferred the same, in the same circumstances.)
So it might not have been appropriate to lash out at him like that.

Any particular reason you are using the web interface instead of a newsgroups client?

-- 
Bruno Medeiros - CS/E student
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?BrunoMedeiros#D

John Reimer wrote:

> I'm not sure why Stewart suddenly felt obligated to post this.  This isn't Usenet.  I saw no problems with your postings.
> 
> It's strange to watch how people start making decisions about how the newsgroup is to be run (for the most part, I haven't seen much of that here over the years: people have been quite relaxed about the thing). This newsgroup has no moderation or authority to control it, as far as I see beyond the responses of the community itself.  Not to say that it doesn't need such control, but that authority hasn't been given to anybody here in particular, let alone Stewart.  So I suggest you not worry about his post until some official word states that he is given a special moderation task for this newsgroup (or the members start backing up his request).

Perhaps you're more right than Stewart. We don't need strict moderation here, but still multiposting is something you probably want to avoid. It's a bit annoying to read exactly same comments from different persons on both .D and .D.announce. This simply wastes the potential power of the community and makes it slower to develop D.

Just my 2 cents.

-- 
Jari-Matti

Jari-Matti Mäkelä wrote:
> John Reimer wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure why Stewart suddenly felt obligated to post this.  This
>> isn't Usenet.  I saw no problems with your postings.
>>
>> It's strange to watch how people start making decisions about how the
>> newsgroup is to be run (for the most part, I haven't seen much of that
>> here over the years: people have been quite relaxed about the thing).
>> This newsgroup has no moderation or authority to control it, as far as I
>> see beyond the responses of the community itself.  Not to say that it
>> doesn't need such control, but that authority hasn't been given to
>> anybody here in particular, let alone Stewart.  So I suggest you not
>> worry about his post until some official word states that he is given a
>> special moderation task for this newsgroup (or the members start backing
>> up his request).
> 
> Perhaps you're more right than Stewart. We don't need strict moderation
> here, but still multiposting is something you probably want to avoid.
> It's a bit annoying to read exactly same comments from different persons
> on both .D and .D.announce. This simply wastes the potential power of
> the community and makes it slower to develop D.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 


Granted.  And with more gentle comments like this, we get a good indication of what this community wants to see in the future for this newsgroup.  It's a little nicer than pouncing on new D users the very first post they make.  I figure it's a good thing to attract the D users that are coming into the community with contributions.

:D

-JJR

Jari-Matti Mäkelä escribió:
> John Reimer wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure why Stewart suddenly felt obligated to post this.  This
>> isn't Usenet.  I saw no problems with your postings.
>>
>> It's strange to watch how people start making decisions about how the
>> newsgroup is to be run (for the most part, I haven't seen much of that
>> here over the years: people have been quite relaxed about the thing).
>> This newsgroup has no moderation or authority to control it, as far as I
>> see beyond the responses of the community itself.  Not to say that it
>> doesn't need such control, but that authority hasn't been given to
>> anybody here in particular, let alone Stewart.  So I suggest you not
>> worry about his post until some official word states that he is given a
>> special moderation task for this newsgroup (or the members start backing
>> up his request).
> 
> Perhaps you're more right than Stewart. We don't need strict moderation
> here, but still multiposting is something you probably want to avoid.
> It's a bit annoying to read exactly same comments from different persons
> on both .D and .D.announce. This simply wastes the potential power of
> the community and makes it slower to develop D.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 

No offense but perhaps Stewart's way was a little too arrogant. The same could had been said with a less "pedantic" accent.

I like D newsgroups very much because it's in general filled of mostly calm and clever people. ;)

JMHO

--
Tom;

I may be particularly wrong here, but isn't this thread about the IUP binding? Comments are useful, but I do not believe that there should be a debate on net-etiquette on an announcement :p

-Skrylar