On Tuesday, 25 October 2022 at 10:18:53 UTC, German Diago wrote:

I am very satisfied with the current D!

D just needs some time to prove itself.

BetterC or better interfacing 'C++' is a good idea!

On Tuesday, 25 October 2022 at 10:51:48 UTC, zjh wrote:

I think 'D' can be the companion language of 'C++'.
For example, as 'C++' implements coroutines, 'D' does not need to implement it again.
As long as D can interface C++ very well, then, for users, When it's time to use 'D', use 'D'. When it's time to use 'C++', use 'C++'. Isn't it very cool?

On Tuesday, 25 October 2022 at 11:09:38 UTC, zjh wrote:

Maybe one day, someone will come out with a book called 'D for C++ Programmers' to talk specifically about interfacing 'C++'.
Yes, you don't have to give up your 'C++' skills.

On Tuesday, 25 October 2022 at 11:09:38 UTC, zjh wrote:

Nope, its not cool. There are people that know D and not C++, since everyone's background is different. Having to learn two new languages is just waste of time, I'd rather just learn C++ and do everything in there if it is the case.

Now, it is indeed good to have C++ interop, but being a companion of C++, is a no go imho.

Best regards,
Alexandru.

On Tuesday, 25 October 2022 at 15:29:27 UTC, Alexandru Ermicioi wrote:

FWIW, D is a language. I would not advocate for or against anything. But the
highest chance of success for languages is compatibility to consume the old
code bases, that for sure, at least in the big picture.

• Kotlin -> compatible with Java
• Swift -> interoperable with Objective-C
• C -> C++

I did not see a clean-cut language that got popular yet for real use in a considerable amount of places. Namely, compatibility is a feature. How deep is the big question and the devil is in the details: source-compatible? API/ABI? Etc. but throwing away and rewriting is not even realistic.

On Tuesday, 25 October 2022 at 17:07:34 UTC, German Diago wrote:

It is fine, if you have high compatibility with other languages, but I'm against it being a companion of another language, which implies that one without another cannot work.

On Tuesday, 25 October 2022 at 17:34:10 UTC, Alexandru Ermicioi wrote:

Many people have studied C++ for 10 years or 20 years.C++ comes out very early. There are many C++ related libraries. The latestC++ is also good. It also has some functions and convenience that D does not provide.
The same is true of D. D also has shortcomings, such as default GC. For me, I can take the advantage of both. If C++and D interact well, it is very convenient to pick the two languages's advantage!
C++ has a large user base. Many people start learning languages from C++.
It is not difficult to switch from C++ to D. The basic concepts are similar.
Because many of the latest things in C++ are already in D.
D,Being a partner language.
It is best to use 'C++' and 'D' at the same time.

On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 01:06:27 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

Well, this is just a personal opinion.
Of course, maybe due to I can't make good use of it now.

On Wednesday, 26 October 2022 at 01:06:27 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:

For short running tools and low volume stuff, yes, GC is good.

My practical experience running vibe.d service with GC in production: default GC is a bane. Default should've been @nogc.