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[dox] What should we do with dsource?
Oct 22, 2013
Wyatt
Oct 22, 2013
Michael
Oct 22, 2013
Andrej Mitrovic
Oct 22, 2013
Benjamin Thaut
Oct 22, 2013
maarten van damme
Oct 23, 2013
Jesse Phillips
Oct 23, 2013
Mike Parker
Oct 24, 2013
Jesse Phillips
Oct 24, 2013
Wyatt
Oct 24, 2013
Jesse Phillips
Oct 24, 2013
Wyatt
Oct 24, 2013
Dicebot
Oct 24, 2013
Wyatt
Oct 24, 2013
Dicebot
Oct 23, 2013
Jacob Carlborg
Oct 23, 2013
Dicebot
October 22, 2013
I remember it came up a couple times last month as a point of contention, so I got in touch with Brad about dsource.  Graciously, he says he's willing to "entertain just about anything", and left it to the community to decide its fate.  This is up to and including passing it off to someone else.  It's still very high in D language search results (e.g. there are disadvantages to simply canning it), and it still hosts planet and a lot of other stuff.

So, as the topic asks: what should be done with it?

-Wyatt
October 22, 2013
Freeze and leave a link in header to D organization on github.
October 22, 2013
On 10/22/13, Wyatt <wyatt.epp@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, as the topic asks: what should be done with it?

Note that some people still use dsource, so well need their input as well. Specifically I know the WindowsAPI project is still being hosted there and being worked on.
October 22, 2013
Am 22.10.2013 21:46, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic:
> On 10/22/13, Wyatt <wyatt.epp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, as the topic asks: what should be done with it?
>
> Note that some people still use dsource, so well need their input as
> well. Specifically I know the WindowsAPI project is still being hosted
> there and being worked on.
>

VisualD is also still hosted on dsource (at least the binaries and the documentation)
October 22, 2013
At least something should happen with the huge amount of outdated projects. Maybe add an archive (assuming we're going to keep dsource alive). It's very frightening stumbling upon D to discover a huge list of abandoned projects and an empty forum :)




2013/10/22 Benjamin Thaut <code@benjamin-thaut.de>

> Am 22.10.2013 21:46, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic:
>
>> On 10/22/13, Wyatt <wyatt.epp@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, as the topic asks: what should be done with it?
>>>
>>
>> Note that some people still use dsource, so well need their input as well. Specifically I know the WindowsAPI project is still being hosted there and being worked on.
>>
>>
> VisualD is also still hosted on dsource (at least the binaries and the
> documentation)
>


October 23, 2013
On Tuesday, 22 October 2013 at 12:38:39 UTC, Wyatt wrote:
> I remember it came up a couple times last month as a point of contention, so I got in touch with Brad about dsource.  Graciously, he says he's willing to "entertain just about anything", and left it to the community to decide its fate.  This is up to and including passing it off to someone else.  It's still very high in D language search results (e.g. there are disadvantages to simply canning it), and it still hosts planet and a lot of other stuff.
>
> So, as the topic asks: what should be done with it?
>
> -Wyatt

Well, I think dsource should survive in some capacity due to the reasons already given. Depending on what taking it over entails, I could probably give it a try. With more permissions the homepage could be cleaned up. I'm not going to be the most actionable on it, but probably can be a gateway into accepting new maintainers.
October 23, 2013
On Wednesday, 23 October 2013 at 01:24:26 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote:
>
> Well, I think dsource should survive in some capacity due to the reasons already given. Depending on what taking it over entails, I could probably give it a try. With more permissions the homepage could be cleaned up. I'm not going to be the most actionable on it, but probably can be a gateway into accepting new maintainers.

My thinking of what this should entail:

1) take over the dsource.org domain and point it to a new server
2) the new site should provide free forums just as the current one does, but nothing more.
3) existing projects still using the forums at the current site should be migrated.
4) existing projects still actively maintaining a subversion repository at the current site should be encouraged to move to another scc hosting solution of their choice (github, bitbucket, whatever).
5) the new site should maintain a searchable registry of all known open source D projects (just a link and a blurb), regardless of whether or not the project uses the forum.

In other words, a complete overhaul. Of course, the few people still using dsource would need to agree to this. Even if they don't, I think this sort of site should exist. It would be a centralized location for all D projects. I would much prefer it to be under the dsource.org domain, since then all of the dead projects there will eventually fall off of the search engines. Plus, "dsource" still makes sense, as it can then can be used solely in the sense of "the source for D projects" (I've always seen it as having a dual meaning, as "source for D" and "D source code").

I'd be willing to pay for a basic Linode instance, or pitch-in for a more expensive one. I'd also be willing to donate a few hours a week to maintenance in whatever capacity I could.
October 23, 2013
On 2013-10-22 14:38, Wyatt wrote:
> I remember it came up a couple times last month as a point of
> contention, so I got in touch with Brad about dsource. Graciously, he
> says he's willing to "entertain just about anything", and left it to the
> community to decide its fate.  This is up to and including passing it
> off to someone else.  It's still very high in D language search results
> (e.g. there are disadvantages to simply canning it), and it still hosts
> planet and a lot of other stuff.
>
> So, as the topic asks: what should be done with it?

It doesn't matter that much to me what happens with it. As long as the projects and source code is still accessible.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
October 23, 2013
I  think pretty much all that needs to be done is making a big red notice on top of the front-page that this website is deprecated and encouraged for only archive usage.

Any merging / restructuring should be discussed once replacement infrastructure is ready, not before.
October 24, 2013
On Wednesday, 23 October 2013 at 05:21:19 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
> My thinking of what this should entail:
>
> 1) take over the dsource.org domain and point it to a new server
> 2) the new site should provide free forums just as the current one does, but nothing more.
> 3) existing projects still using the forums at the current site should be migrated.
> 4) existing projects still actively maintaining a subversion repository at the current site should be encouraged to move to another scc hosting solution of their choice (github, bitbucket, whatever).
> 5) the new site should maintain a searchable registry of all known open source D projects (just a link and a blurb), regardless of whether or not the project uses the forum.

While these might all be good things to do, it's just too much for me to take on with the experience I have with hosting a site/server. Besides, if we want to go this route it would be something to setup and test leaving just pointing dsource.org to the new server.

I'd rather start with more permissions to update the homepage.
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