January 26

On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 18:42:01 UTC, IchorDev wrote:

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On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 02:19:04 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:

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I went to the community Discord and searched the history for your username.

Here's what actually happened: you saw one user in the Discord with pronouns in their display name and threw a tantrum about
it.

Maybe the lesson to be learned is that much like the ‘Boolean’ logic in our hardware that operates by reinterpreting arbitrary voltages as low and high, we too arbitrarily categorise things as political because they’re foreign to our black and white perception of the world.

Let's call it ideological instead of political if you prefer that.

January 27

On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 22:41:03 UTC, torhu wrote:

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On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 18:42:01 UTC, IchorDev wrote:

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On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 02:19:04 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:

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I went to the community Discord and searched the history for your username.

Here's what actually happened: you saw one user in the Discord with pronouns in their display name and threw a tantrum about
it.

Maybe the lesson to be learned is that much like the ‘Boolean’ logic in our hardware that operates by reinterpreting arbitrary voltages as low and high, we too arbitrarily categorise things as political because they’re foreign to our black and white perception of the world.

Let's call it ideological instead of political if you prefer that.

You are making mountains out of ant hills here.

January 27

On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 22:41:03 UTC, torhu wrote:

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On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 18:42:01 UTC, IchorDev wrote:

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On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 02:19:04 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:

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I went to the community Discord and searched the history for your username.

Here's what actually happened: you saw one user in the Discord with pronouns in their display name and threw a tantrum about
it.

Maybe the lesson to be learned is that much like the ‘Boolean’ logic in our hardware that operates by reinterpreting arbitrary voltages as low and high, we too arbitrarily categorise things as political because they’re foreign to our black and white perception of the world.

Let's call it ideological instead of political if you prefer that.

It was neither, it was personal, it was in their profile, no different than wearing a cross round your neck, or a dodgers t-shirt. Its what humans do, they display to other humans things about who they are. That's the whole point of a "profile", so you can let people know a little bit about you.

You made it political because you got so upset about it you felt the need to complain about it. IE. You are the one being "ideological", you want to impose your ideology on others.

It's honestly depressing that you don't understand why such behaviour is a problem.

January 27

On Monday, 27 January 2025 at 09:29:17 UTC, claptrap wrote:

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It's honestly depressing that you don't understand why such behaviour is a problem.

"Helpful" rants are the plague of other language communities too, maybe we are on the brink of getting past that: (though this one is not a mega-thread)
https://youtu.be/o_4EX4dPppA?feature=shared&t=424

January 27

On Monday, 27 January 2025 at 09:29:17 UTC, claptrap wrote:

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On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 22:41:03 UTC, torhu wrote:

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On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 18:42:01 UTC, IchorDev wrote:

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On Sunday, 26 January 2025 at 02:19:04 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:

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I went to the community Discord and searched the history for your username.

Here's what actually happened: you saw one user in the Discord with pronouns in their display name and threw a tantrum about
it.

Maybe the lesson to be learned is that much like the ‘Boolean’ logic in our hardware that operates by reinterpreting arbitrary voltages as low and high, we too arbitrarily categorise things as political because they’re foreign to our black and white perception of the world.

Let's call it ideological instead of political if you prefer that.

It was neither, it was personal, it was in their profile, no different than wearing a cross round your neck, or a dodgers t-shirt. Its what humans do, they display to other humans things about who they are. That's the whole point of a "profile", so you can let people know a little bit about you.

Nope. And it's not profile, but the member list. Which is not the default on Discord, it has to be enabled by admins.

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You made it political because you got so upset about it you felt the need to complain about it. IE. You are the one being "ideological", you want to impose your ideology on others.

No, not true, and I don't have an idelogical stance on this. I just don't think people sexuality, ideology, fetishes, or whatever is something that needs to be accommodated in a Discord that's about programming. Nobody should need to know, or care.

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It's honestly depressing that you don't understand why such behaviour is a problem.

I could say the same about your behavior, would that achieve anything?

January 28
On 28/01/2025 11:16 AM, torhu wrote:
>     It was neither, it was personal, it was in their profile, no
>     different than wearing a cross round your neck, or a dodgers t-
>     shirt. Its what humans do, they display to other humans things about
>     who they are. That's the whole point of a "profile", so you can let
>     people know a little bit about you.
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> Nope. And it's not profile, but the member list. Which is not the default on Discord, it has to be enabled by admins.

There is no setting to allow [] in your display name.

Enabling of server specific display name is however enabled.

As long as a set of pronouns is reasonable, we will require that it is respected. If it isn't, we will deal with it.

Some people care about theirs being respected, but not everyone does (and so they do not put it in their display name).

We did not create this approach. We do not force the usage of it.

The only requirement is to use the pronouns that people state.
Any refusal to do this, is inherently disrespectful, it is no different than using the wrong title of a person and Emily Post's Etiquette has plenty to say about that.

January 27

On Monday, 27 January 2025 at 22:16:27 UTC, torhu wrote:

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I could say the same about your behavior, would that achieve anything?

This thread is not about programming, but directing attention, so I'm going to delete subsequent posts here.

Consider this thread closed.

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