I'd like to know how would people would react if the repository was moved from the current to Gitlab or another medium?

To be honest I find "gh" pretty terrible, for example now you need to log in for silly things like:

Search in a repository.
Read some comments.

And again it's owned by a company which is not regarded for good things, I just read the article about the usage of their AI for the destruction of Gaza.

Another thing that I always think, is giving too much power to one entity, balance is good.

Anyway shouldn't we opt for another medium? If so, it would be too painful?

Matheus.

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 16:55:41 UTC, matheus wrote:
>Gaza.

I bet it will take longer then a shift in the political winds to swap; how many man hours to you wish to spend betting gitlab doesn't have a negative news story in 3 years?

I think d should have backups I dont understand why the bugzillia was disabled, but that took years.

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 18:35:16 UTC, monkyyy wrote:
> On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 16:55:41 UTC, matheus wrote:
>>Gaza.
>
> I bet it will take longer then a shift in the political winds to swap; how many man hours to you wish to spend betting gitlab doesn't have a negative news story in 3 years?
>
> I think d should have backups I dont understand why the bugzillia was disabled, but that took years.

I understand your point, but just to be sure Gitlab or Another medium, it could be Fossil for example.

Matheus.

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 16:55:41 UTC, matheus wrote:
> I'd like to know how would people would react if the repository was moved from the current to Gitlab or another medium?

D uses Github because it is the most popular git hosting platform, and we want to make it as easy as possible for people to contribute to D.

Probably the only thing that would convince D's leadership to switch to another platform is would be if it someday becomes clear that using Github is, on balance, discouraging more contributions than it encourages.

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 16:55:41 UTC, matheus wrote:
> I'd like to know how would people would react if the repository was moved from the current to Gitlab or another medium?
>
> To be honest I find "gh" pretty terrible, for example now you need to log in for silly things like:
>
> Search in a repository.
> Read some comments.
>
> And again it's owned by a company which is not regarded for good things, I just read the article about the usage of their AI for the destruction of Gaza.
>
> Another thing that I always think, is giving too much power to one entity, balance is good.
>
> Anyway shouldn't we opt for another medium? If so, it would be too painful?
>
> Matheus.

I would not mind about a self-hosted gitlab instance. But what I think right now is that this would be costly because of the "runners"... you need servers to run them.

Gitlab.com (i.e not self-hosted) is not an option because the time allowed on the "shared" runners is very limited. For an organization like D-lang it would be consumed with 3 days I believe.

That would need confirmation but I think that all the CI used by d-lang RN are free.

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 19:02:53 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:
>
> D uses Github because it is the most popular git hosting platform, and we want to make it as easy as possible for people to contribute to D.

There is no need to switch, git is a DVCS.

So the org should be able to operate a parallel (free) repo instance on gitlab.com, Codeberg or wherever.  Just having the automation, issues, etc running on GH.

Then at least there is redundancy in the source repos, for when one specific site is unreachable...

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 18:44:04 UTC, matheus wrote:
> On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 18:35:16 UTC, monkyyy wrote:
>> On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 16:55:41 UTC, matheus wrote:
>>>Gaza.
>>
>> I bet it will take longer then a shift in the political winds to swap; how many man hours to you wish to spend betting gitlab doesn't have a negative news story in 3 years?
>>
>> I think d should have backups I dont understand why the bugzillia was disabled, but that took years.
>
> I understand your point, but just to be sure Gitlab or Another medium, it could be Fossil for example.
>
> Matheus.

While I bet there are infact good options for how to do "gib me code" better; I doubt any of them at considered "best practice" or "sane"

Im no fan of github, but I do already have an account and the rate my bug reports have been fixed has doubled since the switch(to 2... total)

By all means try something fun, pick the game dev git compeditor thats been making the rounds, write a new one in 48 hours and demand it ships with the compiler; but swapping between the git websites for politics is going to be a waste of time.

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 19:51:24 UTC, Derek Fawcus wrote:
> On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 19:02:53 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:
>>
>> D uses Github because it is the most popular git hosting platform, and we want to make it as easy as possible for people to contribute to D.
>
> There is no need to switch, git is a DVCS.
>
> So the org should be able to operate a parallel (free) repo instance on gitlab.com, Codeberg or wherever.  Just having the automation, issues, etc running on GH.
>
> Then at least there is redundancy in the source repos, for when one specific site is unreachable...


This is interesting, we should definately do this even so as backup in any case.

Matheus.

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 16:55:41 UTC, matheus wrote:
> I'd like to know how would people would react if the repository was moved from the current to Gitlab or another medium?
>
> To be honest I find "gh" pretty terrible, for example now you need to log in for silly things like:
>
> Search in a repository.
> Read some comments.
>
> And again it's owned by a company which is not regarded for good things, I just read the article about the usage of their AI for the destruction of Gaza.
>
> Another thing that I always think, is giving too much power to one entity, balance is good.
>
> Anyway shouldn't we opt for another medium? If so, it would be too painful?
>
> Matheus.

Fundamentally gitlab is a copy of github - which is itself not very good - with some features bolted on (some good, some bad), it really wouldn't be worth the effort.

On Friday, 24 January 2025 at 16:55:41 UTC, matheus wrote:
> Anyway shouldn't we opt for another medium? If so, it would be too painful?
>
> Matheus.

I agree that it won't change anything, and it will take a lot of effort and probably just damage D development..