D Community Conversations: Walter Bright on the Origins of D Part 1

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D Community Conversations: Walter Bright on the Origins of D Part 1

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I mentioned a little while back that I planned to start a D Community Conversations series on the Foundation's YouTube channel. In this series, I'll chat in depth with various people from the D community about their their projects, their programming backgrounds, their influences, how they got started with D, etc.

I've just published the first episode here:

https://youtu.be/-kkMYJN3MnA

I had a nice chat with Walter starting with the earliest influences that set him on the path to becoming a compiler writer, and exploring how his life experiences influenced the design of D. As always, he throws in a number of anecdotes, many of which I'd never heard before.

The inspiration and reference for this discussion is 'Origins of the D Programming Language', the paper that Walter, Andrei, and I wrote for the HOPL IV conference. We carried the talk up to the early work he did on D. We'll pick up there for Part 2 in future episode, where we'll talk more specifically about the design decisions behind, and the evolution of, D1.

Thanks to Walter for sitting down to do this with me. We actually had to do it twice, as I botched the recording of our first session last week. I enjoyed both chats, and I'm looking forward to the next one.

I'll plan to do one of these every other month, so I'll be reaching out to people around the D community as time goes on.

On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: > ... Very nice interview, and if you don't mind can I give you a suggestion? I'd like to suggest that you don't make these "micro-cuts" through the interview/discussion, let it flow. I've been seeing this around these videos and I think it's better to let it go as is (Like it was live). Or if possible have the 2 versions (With and without cuts). Thanks, Matheus.

On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 13:09:37 UTC, matheus wrote: > On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: >> ... > > Very nice interview, and if you don't mind can I give you a suggestion? > > I'd like to suggest that you don't make these "micro-cuts" through the interview/discussion, let it flow. I've been seeing this around these videos and I think it's better to let it go as is (Like it was live). Or if possible have the 2 versions (With and without cuts). > Thanks! Unfortunately, I disagree about the cuts. The primary motivation is to trim the length of the video down. I think that's important for YouTube videos. The cuts I make can cumulatively lop several minutes off the video. I wasn't as aggressive with this one as I have been with the DConf Online vids. Most of what I cut out was dead air, but I also got rid of a few uhs and ahhs, a handful of tied tongues, and a couple of instances where one of us had to start over again. As for two versions, I'm not really interested in adding the extra time for that to my workflow :-)

On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 13:37:10 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: > The primary motivation is to trim the length of the video down. > I think that's important for YouTube videos. This has changed a lot over recent years - the youtube algorithm now rewards longer length videos. It is the rise of the podcast! The average youtube show I watch now is over 90 minutes long and these are pretty popular so it isn't just me. (Of course, I listen to them at 2x speed...) Though, I don't expect there'd be much of a difference either way between 55 and 60 minutes anyway... it'd depend more on how it sounds and flows to see if it worth your time I guess. I do think it turned out ok as it is btw.

On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 15:33:32 UTC, Adam D Ruppe wrote: > On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 13:37:10 UTC, Mike Parker wrote: >> The primary motivation is to trim the length of the video down. >> I think that's important for YouTube videos. > > This has changed a lot over recent years - the youtube algorithm now rewards longer length videos. It is the rise of the podcast! > > [snip] Many podcasts edit for the uhs and ahhs. Nothing wrong with that.

On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 15:53:40 UTC, jmh530 wrote: > Many podcasts edit for the uhs and ahhs. Nothing wrong with that. One reason is that the editing can be done automatically by services like Descript. I don't know if Mike does it manually.

On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 13:51:27 UTC, Salih Dincer wrote:

On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 18:26:13 UTC, bachmeier wrote:

On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 16:17:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

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This is really good.

Have you considered uploading the audio to Spotify or somewhere as a podcast? No idea what that would involve, but for a lot of us there are more opportunities to listen to a podcast rather than watch a YT video.

I mostly use this site:

https://mp3y.download/en

The intro music and the beginning of the video were great.

SDB@79

I've used those tools before, but it's not the same as following a podcast on Podbean, and you're not going to get into anyone's search on the podcast services.

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