On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Denis Koroskin <2korden@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:37:07 +0300, BCS <ao@pathlink.com> wrote:
>
>> Reply to Denis,
>>
>>> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days. This is an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).
>>
>> COOL
>>
>> I hit this page:  http://dnews.naxx.ru/topic.php?id=117556   and it started trying to download and save files. Is that a bug?  (FF2)
>>
>>
>
> Hm... Yes, it's bug.
>
> I tested it with Opera 10 and Internet Explorer and it works fine for them. I have changed file extension to htm, this should fix the problem.

Awesome, the text displays in-line now.  (The content also spans the whole width of the screen, thanks.)

However the text doesn't wrap to the size of the content box, and has scrollbars on it..?  For example:

http://dnews.naxx.ru/topic.php?id=110721

It makes it terribly difficult to read.

I see you're using an iframe to hold the contents of the posts.  Any reason?

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:23:37 +0300, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:

> "Denis Koroskin" <2korden@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:op.umaqdlx2o7cclz@worker...
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:37:07 +0300, BCS <ao@pathlink.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Reply to Denis,
>>>
>>>> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days. This is
>>>> an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more
>>>> like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).
>>>
>>> COOL
>>>
>>> I hit this page:  http://dnews.naxx.ru/topic.php?id=117556   and it
>>> started trying to download and save files. Is that a bug?  (FF2)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hm... Yes, it's bug.
>>
>> I tested it with Opera 10 and Internet Explorer and it works fine for
>> them.
>> I have changed file extension to htm, this should fix the problem.
>
> You sure you're not sending a bad mime-type in the http headers? (I haven't
> checked)
>
>

Yes, that was the reason. I host those messages in a free server that appends some adds to htm/html files at the end. For other file types server was sending wrong headers to force downloading.

I'll switch server in short time (hopefully).

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:19:42 +0300, Jarrett Billingsley <jarrett.billingsley@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Denis Koroskin <2korden@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:37:07 +0300, BCS <ao@pathlink.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Reply to Denis,
>>>
>>>> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days. This is
>>>> an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more
>>>> like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).
>>>
>>> COOL
>>>
>>> I hit this page:  http://dnews.naxx.ru/topic.php?id=117556   and it
>>> started trying to download and save files. Is that a bug?  (FF2)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hm... Yes, it's bug.
>>
>> I tested it with Opera 10 and Internet Explorer and it works fine for them.
>> I have changed file extension to htm, this should fix the problem.
>
> Awesome, the text displays in-line now.  (The content also spans the
> whole width of the screen, thanks.)
>
> However the text doesn't wrap to the size of the content box, and has
> scrollbars on it..?  For example:
>
> http://dnews.naxx.ru/topic.php?id=110721
>
> It makes it terribly difficult to read.
>

I am aware of this issue and has a fix for it. Message will be automatically adjusted to fit into screen so no scrollbar anymore.

> I see you're using an iframe to hold the contents of the posts.  Any reason?

There are two of them and both are minor:

1) Posts have different encodings (some are utf8, others are latin1, windows1251, windows1254, koi8-r etc). Perhaps I could use iconv (or similar tool) to convert them all into utf8...
2) Storing messages separately reduces database size and page loading time.

They also have some disadvantages:
1) Page may jerk a little during frames loading and adjustment
2) I bet messages won't be indexed by Google properly :(

Initially I wanted to host messages on several different server to further reduce workaload and improve speed alittle, but now I am not sure if it is reasonable. Unfortunately, adjusting frames from cross domain doesn't work. And putting them into the same domain doesn't differ from putting them into a database.

So I'll most probably switch to a database solution. Today, perhaps.

BTW, there are other newsgroup on DigitalMars.com (rangelib, electronics, empire, c++ etc), does anyone use them? Should I import them, too?

Hello Denis,

> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days. This is
> an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more
> like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).
> 
> Currently it is readonly, updated infrequently and have some known
> bugs. Testing needed!
> 
> User registration, post submition (of course!), post editing/removal,
> search (per forum/per thread etc) - not supported atm (but will be
> soon!)
> 
> Forum theme is copyrighted and needs to be changed by something free.
> 
> Feedback, bugs detected, suggestions etc are *very* much appreciated!
> 
> Check it out:
> http://dnews.naxx.ru


Looking good so far.  I think you are on to something.

I was just curious to know why the poster's email address's contain a # instead of a @.  Is that intended to help avoid spambots?

-JJR

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:19:54 +0300, John Reimer <terminal.node@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Denis,
>
>> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days. This is
>> an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more
>> like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).
>>  Currently it is readonly, updated infrequently and have some known
>> bugs. Testing needed!
>>  User registration, post submition (of course!), post editing/removal,
>> search (per forum/per thread etc) - not supported atm (but will be
>> soon!)
>>  Forum theme is copyrighted and needs to be changed by something free.
>>  Feedback, bugs detected, suggestions etc are *very* much appreciated!
>>  Check it out:
>> http://dnews.naxx.ru
>
>
> Looking good so far.  I think you are on to something.
>
> I was just curious to know why the poster's email address's contain a # instead of a @.  Is that intended to help avoid spambots?
>
> -JJR
>
>

Right

Denis Koroskin wrote:
> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days. This is an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).
> 
> Currently it is readonly, updated infrequently and have some known bugs. Testing needed!
> 
> User registration, post submition (of course!), post editing/removal, search (per forum/per thread etc) - not supported atm (but will be soon!)
> 
> Forum theme is copyrighted and needs to be changed by something free.
> 
> Feedback, bugs detected, suggestions etc are *very* much appreciated!
> 
> Check it out:
> http://dnews.naxx.ru

Looks nice :)

The page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | etc | 229 | 230 stuff could probably be condensed to links to first 10 pages and then followed by an input box to save space :)

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:22:32 +0300, KennyTM~ <kennytm@gmail.com> wrote:

> Denis Koroskin wrote:
>> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days. This is an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).
>>  Currently it is readonly, updated infrequently and have some known bugs. Testing needed!
>>  User registration, post submition (of course!), post editing/removal, search (per forum/per thread etc) - not supported atm (but will be soon!)
>>  Forum theme is copyrighted and needs to be changed by something free.
>>  Feedback, bugs detected, suggestions etc are *very* much appreciated!
>>  Check it out:
>> http://dnews.naxx.ru
>
> Looks nice :)
>
> The page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | etc | 229 | 230 stuff could probably be condensed to links to first 10 pages and then followed by an input box to save space :)

Nice idea. Done!

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:58:59 +0300, Denis Koroskin wrote:

> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days. This is an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).
> 
> Currently it is readonly, updated infrequently and have some known bugs. Testing needed!
> 
> User registration, post submition (of course!), post editing/removal,
> search (per forum/per thread etc) - not supported atm (but will be
> soon!)
> 
> Forum theme is copyrighted and needs to be changed by something free.
> 
> Feedback, bugs detected, suggestions etc are *very* much appreciated!
> 
> Check it out:
> http://dnews.naxx.ru

Nice work, thanks.

Btw., the font is a too small imho.

"Denis Koroskin" <2korden@gmail.com> wrote in message news:op.umaqdlx2o7cclz@worker...
<snip>
> I tested it with Opera 10 and Internet Explorer and it works fine for them.
> I have changed file extension to htm, this should fix the problem.

That doesn't fix the problem.  It merely works around it.

Besides, the standard extension for HTML files is html, not htm.

Stewart.

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"Denis Koroskin" <2korden@gmail.com> wrote in message news:op.umaaglh1o7cclz@worker...
> I have been working on new newsgroups archive last few days.  This is an newsgroup posts archive structured in a way so that it feels more like a forum (that's what you demanded, right?).

Did I?  I don't remember....

<snip>
> Forum theme is copyrighted and needs to be changed by something free.

?

> Feedback, bugs detected, suggestions etc are *very* much appreciated!

1. There seem to be a lot of broken links.  If they're to functionality you haven't implemented yet, then remove these links until you have.  The user shouldn't have to hunt and peck to find out what works and what doesn't.

2. Speaking of broken links, is there any chance of the 404 page being translated into English?

3. You neglect to convert characters that have special meanings in HTML. This causes some posts to display incorrectly.
<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"><!--
window.parent.document.title='XSS exploit!';
// --></script>

4. How about auto-linking URLs?

5. http://validator.w3.org/

Stewart.

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