Today, I have made the switch to Dvorak, thus I am typing slower.  I believe that it is worth it.  This means that I will not be typing much for a while.

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I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left, down,
up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>

In article <opr3uahjty1s9n15@saturn>, SpookyET says...
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>Today, I have made the switch to Dvorak, thus I am typing slower.  I believe that it is worth it.  This means that I will not be typing much for a while.
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And the crowd goes wild.

In article <opr3uahjty1s9n15@saturn>, SpookyET says...
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>Today, I have made the switch to Dvorak, thus I am typing slower.  I believe that it is worth it.  This means that I will not be typing much for a while.
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But why not a chording keyboard?

Keith Fuller wrote:

> I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left,
> down, up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>

Something tells me SpookyET can't identify with that particular pain...

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Mik Mifflin wrote:
> Keith Fuller wrote:
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>>I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left,
>>down, up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>
> 
> 
> Something tells me SpookyET can't identify with that particular pain...
> 

vim.net?

Brad Anderson wrote:
> Mik Mifflin wrote:
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>> Keith Fuller wrote:
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>>> I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left,
>>> down, up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>
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>> Something tells me SpookyET can't identify with that particular pain...
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> vim.net?

No, vim#.

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Keith Fuller wrote:

> I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left, down,
> up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>
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In every version of vi I've played with, the (left, down, up, right) keys are (left arrow, down arrow, up arrow, right arrow).

Stewart.

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'vi' editor is terminal-type-dependent.  It is what termcap was designed for. Nowadays everything (?) supports full keyboarding, and you may never see a terminal with only typewriter keys.  They were common when 'vi' was developed by Bill Joy and company at U.C.Berkeley, and there were upwards of a hundred different terminals with different keyboarding and display capabilities.

"h,j,k,l" always works and the arrow keys were supported later when available. This is also the origin of "x" for char-delete and other strangenesses (now). 'vim' and other pc-based likenesses extend the basis editor which in turn used to have a separate editor 'ex' which underlay the nice surface and implemented most of the : functionality.  'ex' was a command line editor.

'vi' still is a very fast editor for an experienced typist.  It was designed to allow him to churn at nearly his normal typing speed.  Personally I'm a fast one-handed typist and still like it (2nd hand for coffee or book - used to be for card decks or listings).  It was not designed for Dvorak, but should be eminently usable there even though the keys are split apart.

In article <c1kn96$2tj8$2@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
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>Keith Fuller wrote:
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>> I've noticed that when using the vi editor and Dvorak layout, the (left, down,
>> up, right) keys (h,j,k,l) are no longer next to each other. <g>
><snip>
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>In every version of vi I've played with, the (left, down, up, right) keys are (left arrow, down arrow, up arrow, right arrow).
>
>Stewart.
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