Thread overview
Beta 2.078.2
Feb 01, 2018
Martin Nowak
Feb 01, 2018
Andrew Benton
Feb 01, 2018
Seb
Feb 02, 2018
Antonio Corbi
Feb 02, 2018
Seb
Feb 02, 2018
Antonio Corbi
Feb 04, 2018
Timothee Cour
Feb 04, 2018
Timothee Cour
February 01, 2018
First beta for the 2.078.2 patch release.

Contains a major regression fix for hashtable array comparison and comes with  more reliable retries and fallback mirror usage for dub (https://github.com/dlang/dub/pull/1339).

http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta http://dlang.org/changelog/2.078.2.html

Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

- -Martin
February 01, 2018
On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 16:01:18 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
> First beta for the 2.078.2 patch release.
>
> Contains a major regression fix for hashtable array comparison and comes with  more reliable retries and fallback mirror usage for dub (https://github.com/dlang/dub/pull/1339).
>
> http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta http://dlang.org/changelog/2.078.2.html
>
> Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org
>
> - -Martin

Changelog page returns a 404
February 01, 2018
On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 17:32:09 UTC, Andrew Benton wrote:
> On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 16:01:18 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>> First beta for the 2.078.2 patch release.
>>
>> Contains a major regression fix for hashtable array comparison and comes with  more reliable retries and fallback mirror usage for dub (https://github.com/dlang/dub/pull/1339).
>>
>> http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta http://dlang.org/changelog/2.078.2.html
>>
>> Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org
>>
>> - -Martin
>
> Changelog page returns a 404

It got lost in the merge queue - https://github.com/dlang/dlang.org/pull/2158

I just merged it. It should be up in a few minutes.
February 02, 2018
On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 18:21:22 UTC, Seb wrote:
> On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 17:32:09 UTC, Andrew Benton wrote:
>> On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 16:01:18 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>> First beta for the 2.078.2 patch release.
>>>
>>> Contains a major regression fix for hashtable array comparison and comes with  more reliable retries and fallback mirror usage for dub (https://github.com/dlang/dub/pull/1339).
>>>
>>> http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta http://dlang.org/changelog/2.078.2.html
>>>
>>> Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org
>>>
>>> - -Martin
>>
>> Changelog page returns a 404
>
> It got lost in the merge queue - https://github.com/dlang/dlang.org/pull/2158
>
> I just merged it. It should be up in a few minutes.

Wouldn't it be good to include a fix for errors like produced by int.min assigned to a variable (https://forum.dlang.org/post/p4l7kt$80d$1@digitalmars.com) in a point release like this?

A. Corbi
February 02, 2018
On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 08:34:32 UTC, Antonio Corbi wrote:
> On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 18:21:22 UTC, Seb wrote:
>> On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 17:32:09 UTC, Andrew Benton wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 16:01:18 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>>> First beta for the 2.078.2 patch release.
>>>>
>>>> Contains a major regression fix for hashtable array comparison and comes with  more reliable retries and fallback mirror usage for dub (https://github.com/dlang/dub/pull/1339).
>>>>
>>>> http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta http://dlang.org/changelog/2.078.2.html
>>>>
>>>> Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org
>>>>
>>>> - -Martin
>>>
>>> Changelog page returns a 404
>>
>> It got lost in the merge queue - https://github.com/dlang/dlang.org/pull/2158
>>
>> I just merged it. It should be up in a few minutes.
>
> Wouldn't it be good to include a fix for errors like produced by int.min assigned to a variable (https://forum.dlang.org/post/p4l7kt$80d$1@digitalmars.com) in a point release like this?
>
> A. Corbi

No, while I understand that you would like this to be fixed, this change might be disruptive - you never know on what weird behavior people rely. Anything potentially breaking existing code can't be part of a patch release.

Also AFAICT no one has submitted a PR to fix the issue you referenced, so it's a hypothetical question (for now).
February 02, 2018
On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 09:29:15 UTC, Seb wrote:
> On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 08:34:32 UTC, Antonio Corbi wrote:
>> On Thursday, 1 February 2018 at 18:21:22 UTC, Seb wrote:
>>> [...]
>>
>> Wouldn't it be good to include a fix for errors like produced by int.min assigned to a variable (https://forum.dlang.org/post/p4l7kt$80d$1@digitalmars.com) in a point release like this?
>>
>> A. Corbi
>
> No, while I understand that you would like this to be fixed, this change might be disruptive - you never know on what weird behavior people rely. Anything potentially breaking existing code can't be part of a patch release.
>
> Also AFAICT no one has submitted a PR to fix the issue you referenced, so it's a hypothetical question (for now).

Thanks Seb, that makes sense.

A. Corbi
February 02, 2018
On 2/2/18 4:29 AM, Seb wrote:
> On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 08:34:32 UTC, Antonio Corbi wrote:

>> Wouldn't it be good to include a fix for errors like produced by int.min assigned to a variable (https://forum.dlang.org/post/p4l7kt$80d$1@digitalmars.com) in a point release like this?
> 
> No, while I understand that you would like this to be fixed, this change might be disruptive - you never know on what weird behavior people rely. Anything potentially breaking existing code can't be part of a patch release.

In some cases, yes, we need to have a deprecation period as people may depend on the behavior.

In this case, however, the codegen is simply wrong. It can be fixed immediately. I would hazard to guess that nobody is depending on int.min being greater than 0.

> Also AFAICT no one has submitted a PR to fix the issue you referenced, so it's a hypothetical question (for now).

I would suggest to would-be fixers, just do the correct thing that may be less performant, and we can worry about optimizing later (and add a unit test of course!). There is nothing worse than a compiler that doesn't emit the code you expect it to.

-Steve
February 04, 2018
thanks @aG0aep6G for this PR https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/7841 to fix it.
this should be in point release because:
* ldc2 has correct behavior
* the bug disappears with `-O`
so the argument that ppl would rely on it is moot


On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:37 AM, Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On 2/2/18 4:29 AM, Seb wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 08:34:32 UTC, Antonio Corbi wrote:
>
>
>>> Wouldn't it be good to include a fix for errors like produced by int.min assigned to a variable (https://forum.dlang.org/post/p4l7kt$80d$1@digitalmars.com) in a point release like this?
>>
>>
>> No, while I understand that you would like this to be fixed, this change might be disruptive - you never know on what weird behavior people rely. Anything potentially breaking existing code can't be part of a patch release.
>
>
> In some cases, yes, we need to have a deprecation period as people may depend on the behavior.
>
> In this case, however, the codegen is simply wrong. It can be fixed immediately. I would hazard to guess that nobody is depending on int.min being greater than 0.
>
>> Also AFAICT no one has submitted a PR to fix the issue you referenced, so it's a hypothetical question (for now).
>
>
> I would suggest to would-be fixers, just do the correct thing that may be less performant, and we can worry about optimizing later (and add a unit test of course!). There is nothing worse than a compiler that doesn't emit the code you expect it to.
>
> -Steve
February 04, 2018
if necessary, to help with transition, one could add a hidden flag `-log_when_issue_18315_occurred` that would log stacktrace (or maybe user defined function) when hitting this condition at runtime:

```
void main(){ fun(int.min); }
void fun(int v){ writeln(v>0); }
```

dmd -log_when_issue_18315_occurred -run main.d WARNING_18315 at (shows stacktrace): old:true, new:false false


On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Timothee Cour <thelastmammoth@gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks @aG0aep6G for this PR https://github.com/dlang/dmd/pull/7841 to fix it.
> this should be in point release because:
> * ldc2 has correct behavior
> * the bug disappears with `-O`
> so the argument that ppl would rely on it is moot
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 6:37 AM, Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>> On 2/2/18 4:29 AM, Seb wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, 2 February 2018 at 08:34:32 UTC, Antonio Corbi wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be good to include a fix for errors like produced by int.min assigned to a variable (https://forum.dlang.org/post/p4l7kt$80d$1@digitalmars.com) in a point release like this?
>>>
>>>
>>> No, while I understand that you would like this to be fixed, this change might be disruptive - you never know on what weird behavior people rely. Anything potentially breaking existing code can't be part of a patch release.
>>
>>
>> In some cases, yes, we need to have a deprecation period as people may depend on the behavior.
>>
>> In this case, however, the codegen is simply wrong. It can be fixed immediately. I would hazard to guess that nobody is depending on int.min being greater than 0.
>>
>>> Also AFAICT no one has submitted a PR to fix the issue you referenced, so it's a hypothetical question (for now).
>>
>>
>> I would suggest to would-be fixers, just do the correct thing that may be less performant, and we can worry about optimizing later (and add a unit test of course!). There is nothing worse than a compiler that doesn't emit the code you expect it to.
>>
>> -Steve