Any progress on AMD64 support?

I'm curious where Digital Mars wants to go with D. Will there be ports to other archs as well? (i.e. Sparc64, Alpha, etc)

btw, I'm a *BSD, and Linux developer. I don't care too much for
Windows which is why I'm curious about D being portable to other platforms
besides Windows and Linux.

TSUME

In article <pan.2005.08.06.13.46.00.181336@NOSPAMtsumelabs.com>, TSUME says...
>
>Any progress on AMD64 support?
>
>I'm curious where Digital Mars wants to go with D. Will there be ports to other archs as well? (i.e. Sparc64, Alpha, etc)
>
>btw, I'm a *BSD, and Linux developer. I don't care too much for
>Windows which is why I'm curious about D being portable to other platforms
>besides Windows and Linux.

What architectures can GDC target?  I had thought it was more than just x86.


Sean

In article <dd2ihu$1k6o$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Sean Kelly says...
>
>In article <pan.2005.08.06.13.46.00.181336@NOSPAMtsumelabs.com>, TSUME says...
>>
>>Any progress on AMD64 support?
>>
>>I'm curious where Digital Mars wants to go with D. Will there be ports to other archs as well? (i.e. Sparc64, Alpha, etc)
>>
>>btw, I'm a *BSD, and Linux developer. I don't care too much for
>>Windows which is why I'm curious about D being portable to other platforms
>>besides Windows and Linux.
>
>What architectures can GDC target?  I had thought it was more than just x86.

This should probably go to the D.GNU newsgroup.

SomeOne wrote:

>>>I'm curious where Digital Mars wants to go with D. Will there be ports to
>>>other archs as well? (i.e. Sparc64, Alpha, etc)
[...]
>>
>>What architectures can GDC target?  I had thought it was more than just x86.
> 
> This should probably go to the D.GNU newsgroup.

You're welcome on the other newsgroup, but GDC currently builds for:
- X86
- PPC
- SPARC

I don't think it works on any 64-bit* platform yet, mostly due to some
deficiencies in the runtime library as I think the D compiler is "ok" ?

* = I mean building a full 64-bit compiler, not running on a 64-bit OS.

When it does, there will be additional support for the non-32-bit arch:
- X86_64
- PPC64
- SPARC64

But there is no interest from Digital Mars in other arch's, it seems ?
GDC platforms are: Linux, BSD, Darwin, Cygwin, Solaris, AIX and others.

--anders

PS.
DMD versions:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/version.html
GDC versions:
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?DocComments/Version

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 22:43:50 +0200, Anders F Björklund wrote:

> SomeOne wrote:
> 
>>>>I'm curious where Digital Mars wants to go with D. Will there be ports to other archs as well? (i.e. Sparc64, Alpha, etc)
> [...]
>>>
>>>What architectures can GDC target?  I had thought it was more than just x86.
>> 
>> This should probably go to the D.GNU newsgroup.
> 
> You're welcome on the other newsgroup, but GDC currently builds for:
> - X86
> - PPC
> - SPARC
> 
> I don't think it works on any 64-bit* platform yet, mostly due to some deficiencies in the runtime library as I think the D compiler is "ok" ?
> 
> * = I mean building a full 64-bit compiler, not running on a 64-bit OS.
> 
> When it does, there will be additional support for the non-32-bit arch:
> - X86_64
> - PPC64
> - SPARC64
> 
> But there is no interest from Digital Mars in other arch's, it seems ? GDC platforms are: Linux, BSD, Darwin, Cygwin, Solaris, AIX and others.
> 

I've seen the GDC port, but I'm asking about both. Is Digital Mars going to port the compiler to other archs and OSes? *BSD is very important to me and I use it every day more than any other OS. Having just the GDC is a sad option. Many people I ask why, and they say "We won't support it reasons because its not commercially supported" yet.. I point them to what Apple has done with DarwinBSD and they go off running arrogant and mad. I'm also curious why the Digital Mars compiler isn't ported to NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and DarwinBSD(and MacOSX) yet. Would be _much_ better than relying on GCC, which is very fond of breaking everything on its way to destruction. :) *No, linux emulation isn't an answer*

TSUME

"TSUME" <tsume@NOSPAMtsumelabs.com> wrote in message news:pan.2005.08.08.11.19.01.618056@NOSPAMtsumelabs.com...
> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 22:43:50 +0200, Anders F Björklund wrote:
>
>> SomeOne wrote:
>>
>>>>>I'm curious where Digital Mars wants to go with D. Will there be ports
>>>>>to
>>>>>other archs as well? (i.e. Sparc64, Alpha, etc)
>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>What architectures can GDC target?  I had thought it was more than just x86.
>>>
>>> This should probably go to the D.GNU newsgroup.
>>
>> You're welcome on the other newsgroup, but GDC currently builds for:
>> - X86
>> - PPC
>> - SPARC
>>
>> I don't think it works on any 64-bit* platform yet, mostly due to some deficiencies in the runtime library as I think the D compiler is "ok" ?
>>
>> * = I mean building a full 64-bit compiler, not running on a 64-bit OS.
>>
>> When it does, there will be additional support for the non-32-bit arch:
>> - X86_64
>> - PPC64
>> - SPARC64
>>
>> But there is no interest from Digital Mars in other arch's, it seems ? GDC platforms are: Linux, BSD, Darwin, Cygwin, Solaris, AIX and others.
>>
>
> I've seen the GDC port, but I'm asking about both. Is Digital Mars going to port the compiler to other archs and OSes? *BSD is very important to me and I use it every day more than any other OS. Having just the GDC is a sad option. Many people I ask why, and they say "We won't support it reasons because its not commercially supported" yet.. I point them to what Apple has done with DarwinBSD and they go off running arrogant and mad. I'm also curious why the Digital Mars compiler isn't ported to NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and DarwinBSD(and MacOSX) yet. Would be _much_ better than relying on GCC, which is very fond of breaking everything on its way to destruction. :) *No, linux emulation isn't an answer*
>
> TSUME

I think the main reason why Digital Mars D isn't on more systems is that Walter hasn't been cloned yet. But that's just a guess.

TSUME wrote:

>>But there is no interest from Digital Mars in other arch's, it seems ?
>>GDC platforms are: Linux, BSD, Darwin, Cygwin, Solaris, AIX and others.
> 
> I've seen the GDC port, but I'm asking about both. Is Digital Mars going
> to port the compiler to other archs and OSes?

Only Walter, or other Digital Mars representative, can answer that one.

> *BSD is very important to me
> and I use it every day more than any other OS. Having just the GDC is a
> sad option. Many people I ask why, and they say "We won't support it
> reasons because its not commercially supported" yet.. I point them to what
> Apple has done with DarwinBSD and they go off running arrogant and mad.
> I'm also curious why the Digital Mars compiler isn't ported to NetBSD,
> FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and DarwinBSD(and MacOSX) yet.

By the way, it is "Darwin" and not DarwinBSD... Though 4.4BSD is an important part of the core OS (just as the Mach 3.0 microkernel is)

I also believe that Darwin 8 is pretty well synched up to FreeBSD 5?
http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/

> Would be _much_ better
> than relying on GCC, which is very fond of breaking everything on its way
> to destruction. :) *No, linux emulation isn't an answer*

One of main advantages of GCC and GDC are that they are Free Software.
(available under GNU General Public License)

--anders

"Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle@gmail.com> wrote in message news:dd6k02$1eeg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> "TSUME" <tsume@NOSPAMtsumelabs.com> wrote in message news:pan.2005.08.08.11.19.01.618056@NOSPAMtsumelabs.com...
> > I've seen the GDC port, but I'm asking about both. Is Digital Mars going to port the compiler to other archs and OSes? *BSD is very important to
me
> > and I use it every day more than any other OS. Having just the GDC is a sad option. Many people I ask why, and they say "We won't support it reasons because its not commercially supported" yet.. I point them to
what
> > Apple has done with DarwinBSD and they go off running arrogant and mad. I'm also curious why the Digital Mars compiler isn't ported to NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and DarwinBSD(and MacOSX) yet. Would be _much_ better than relying on GCC, which is very fond of breaking everything on its
way
> > to destruction. :) *No, linux emulation isn't an answer*
> >
> > TSUME
>
> I think the main reason why Digital Mars D isn't on more systems is that Walter hasn't been cloned yet. But that's just a guess.

That's right. It's not that I don't want to support them, I do. It's just that one more thing to support and my head will explode <g>.

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 08:56:17 +0200, Anders F Björklund wrote:

> 
> By the way, it is "Darwin" and not DarwinBSD... Though 4.4BSD is an important part of the core OS (just as the Mach 3.0 microkernel is)
> 

Hehe. Well I have a bad habit of calling Darwin different names. This is been about the 1 millionth time. :)

> I also believe that Darwin 8 is pretty well synched up to FreeBSD 5? http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/
> 

I keep hearing the userland, yes. Which is a nice giant step. Apple wants to stay toward the nice heaven of being related to BSD. They have helped many projects with support.

>> Would be _much_ better
>> than relying on GCC, which is very fond of breaking everything on its way
>> to destruction. :) *No, linux emulation isn't an answer*
> 
> One of main advantages of GCC and GDC are that they are Free Software. (available under GNU General Public License)

*shrug* I guess so. The GCC compiler still has issues, but work arounds exist. I realize not every platform can be supported well, like how GUI toolkits out there which are multiplatform.

TSUME

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 01:16:14 -0700, Walter wrote:

> 
> "Ben Hinkle" <ben.hinkle@gmail.com> wrote in message news:dd6k02$1eeg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>
>> "TSUME" <tsume@NOSPAMtsumelabs.com> wrote in message news:pan.2005.08.08.11.19.01.618056@NOSPAMtsumelabs.com...
>> > I've seen the GDC port, but I'm asking about both. Is Digital Mars going to port the compiler to other archs and OSes? *BSD is very important to
> me
>> > and I use it every day more than any other OS. Having just the GDC is a sad option. Many people I ask why, and they say "We won't support it reasons because its not commercially supported" yet.. I point them to
> what
>> > Apple has done with DarwinBSD and they go off running arrogant and mad. I'm also curious why the Digital Mars compiler isn't ported to NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and DarwinBSD(and MacOSX) yet. Would be _much_ better than relying on GCC, which is very fond of breaking everything on its
> way
>> > to destruction. :) *No, linux emulation isn't an answer*
>> >
>> > TSUME
>>
>> I think the main reason why Digital Mars D isn't on more systems is that Walter hasn't been cloned yet. But that's just a guess.
> 
> That's right. It's not that I don't want to support them, I do. It's just that one more thing to support and my head will explode <g>.

Will there be plans for support of the BSDs?

/me hears an explosion in the background.

TSUME