I'm getting ready to start prepping one of the DIPs in the PR queue for community review. It proposes adding an `in` operator for arrays. I haven't gone through it in detail yet, so I invite anyone with time on their hands to provide feedback on the Draft so we can more speedily get in shape to kick off the big-league reviews.

https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/pull/101

While you're at it, feel free to poke around and leave some feedback on other drafts in the queue.

On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 14:54:24 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
> I'm getting ready to start prepping one of the DIPs in the PR queue for community review. It proposes adding an `in` operator for arrays. I haven't gone through it in detail yet, so I invite anyone with time on their hands to provide feedback on the Draft so we can more speedily get in shape to kick off the big-league reviews.
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> https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/pull/101
>
> While you're at it, feel free to poke around and leave some feedback on other drafts in the queue.

 pull/101 was closed.  What's happening now?

On 06/09/2018 2:20 AM, Nicholas Wilson wrote:
> On Monday, 20 August 2018 at 14:54:24 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to start prepping one of the DIPs in the PR queue for community review. It proposes adding an `in` operator for arrays. I haven't gone through it in detail yet, so I invite anyone with time on their hands to provide feedback on the Draft so we can more speedily get in shape to kick off the big-league reviews.
>>
>> https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/pull/101
>>
>> While you're at it, feel free to poke around and leave some feedback on other drafts in the queue.
> 
>   pull/101 was closed.  What's happening now?

Last time I checked, it should be me and yshui's named parameter DIP's next, they really need to be reviewed together though, at least initially.

On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 14:20:38 UTC, Nicholas Wilson wrote:

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>  pull/101 was closed.  What's happening now?

I'm not going to start another Community Review until I get some space in the latter end of the queue. But soon I'll be asking for Draft Review feedback on the next candidate. Right now that's likely to be 'Named arguments lite', but it be Rikki's.

https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/pull/123

On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 14:30:14 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:

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> Last time I checked, it should be me and yshui's named parameter DIP's next, they really need to be reviewed together though, at least initially.

I'm not at all thrilled by the idea of running two DIPs through the queue in concert and would prefer to avoid that circumstance.

I've already discussed this with Yuxuan and asked if he'd be willing work together with you on a single DIP. His response was that the two proposals are not mutually exclusive and that yours could be built on top of his.

I need to take the time to fully absorb both DIPs and then I'll decide how to approach it. But you'll be hearing from me as soon as I do.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 20:30, Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
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> On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 14:30:14 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:
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> >
> > Last time I checked, it should be me and yshui's named parameter DIP's next, they really need to be reviewed together though, at least initially.
>
> I'm not at all thrilled by the idea of running two DIPs through the queue in concert and would prefer to avoid that circumstance.
>
> I've already discussed this with Yuxuan and asked if he'd be willing work together with you on a single DIP. His response was that the two proposals are not mutually exclusive and that yours could be built on top of his.
>
> I need to take the time to fully absorb both DIPs and then I'll decide how to approach it. But you'll be hearing from me as soon as I do.

Out of curiosity... what's going on with mine? Is there something I'm meant to have done? It's kinda just hanging out no?

On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 04:51:23 UTC, Manu wrote:

> Out of curiosity... what's going on with mine? Is there something I'm meant to have done? It's kinda just hanging out no?

Yours is in the Post-Community review stage [1]:

"A DIP may remain in the Post-Community Round N status for a maximum of 180 days. Periodically, the DIP Manager will determine if any post-community DIP is ready to move forward to the Final Review stage. Only one DIP may be in this stage at any given time."

I've got three DIPs in the Post-Community stage right now [2]. DIP 1015 will move to Final Review before yours if its author is ready when I am, then yours will go before 1017.

I recently sent 1014 to Walter and Andrei for Formal Assessment, with 1013 waiting to go when it's done. I don't know when I'll receive their decision, so I'm slowing the pace down for now. I see the Post-Community round as a staging area for the end game and would very much prefer to have as little time as possible for each DIP in the Post-Final stage. That way the Final Review feedback doesn't get too stale before it goes to Walter & Andrei.

I intend to move 1015 into Final Review within the next couple of weeks if the author is ready, so it will be at least a month before yours moves forward. That ultimately depends on how soon Walter & Andrei give me a decision on 1014.

[1] https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/blob/master/PROCEDURE.md#final-review
[2] https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/blob/master/DIPs/README.md

On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 03:19:33 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
> I'm not going to start another Community Review until I get some space in the latter end of the queue. But soon I'll be asking for Draft Review feedback on the next candidate. Right now that's likely to be 'Named arguments lite', but it be Rikki's.
>
> https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/pull/123

Did you a word? Anyway good to know that things are still moving forward.

On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 05:25:11 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
> I've got three DIPs in the Post-Community stage right now [2]. DIP 1015 will move to Final Review before yours if its author is ready when I am, then yours will go before 1017.

I'm a bit worried about 1017 going in to final, given the large, unresolved criticisms in both draft and community review rounds. IMO the DIP author should at least participate in the community review if they expect their DIP to have _any_ chance of success.

On Thursday, 6 September 2018 at 07:13:20 UTC, Nicholas Wilson wrote:
> IMO the DIP author should at least participate in the community review if they expect their DIP to have _any_ chance of success.

I disagree. Reviews are mainly for giving feedback, not for deciding the fate of the DIP -that's what the formal assesment is for.

IMO, it's enough that the author reads the review and addresses the points in the DIP before the next phase. And not every point has to be blindly addressed, the reviewers may be just as wrong as the author.

The reviews are still mentioned in the DIPs so they can be considered in the formal assesment, addressed by the author or not. And of course it's always better if the author interactively participates at the review, but it should not be required IMO.