On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 at 08:59:06 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:
> [Incidentally, I found the copyright notice that goes with the current logo at the bottom of this page: http://media.sukimashita.com/d/ (the gallery of designs that the current logo was chosen from)]

Yeah:
«ALL FREE TO USE. ONLY SELLING THESE IMAGES IS PROHIBITED.»

I guess that is good enough for adapting the logo to flat shading and a new web design with minor visual tweaks. The original author appears to be Martin Szulecki, so he can probably be reached by e-mail.

We don't have any recognizable branding worth fighting for. I can't even remember how current D logo looks like without checking the website, it is just some image in the corner of the page. "Branding" is something bigger than that.

On 2014-07-02 02:32:18 +0000, Walter Bright said:

> On 7/1/2014 3:02 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
>> I'm not taking it lightly. The big issue I see with the current state is that D
>> simply doesn't have a consistent brand at this point, and never had (D Man,
>> anyone?). Frantically clinging to the current bits and pieces doesn't help us at
>> all, and neither do alarmist and inflammatory sweeping blows directed at a
>> honest (and only partially related) volunteer effort.
> 
> The only thing that we have that is consistent is the current D logo. I do not understand the rationale for changing it.

The change that w0rt put together as a showcase is not a redesign of the logo.   All he did was stylize it for the design of the website he put together -- which looks fantastic!

> 
>> Instead, we should try to channel what we currently have into a appealing and
>> recognizable brand. Even if that means slightly touching up the logo to adapt
>> some of the elements that might have been hip a while ago, but would seem rather
>> quaint in a current design. I completely agree that this can't be a matter of
>> somebody toying around with Inkscape a bit (no offense!), but discouraging
>> everybody from addressing the issue at all while at the same time not bringing
>> anything to the table yourself also isn't particularly productive.
> 
> There's so much that can be done to improve the website, I'm reluctant to put time and energy into redesigning the logo.

Nobody is asking you to put any time or effort into redesigning the logo.   I realize you may not think so, but the current logo is not very attractive.    Unfortunately, having a modern website with attractive graphics goes a long way toward garnering support for a project.

Walter, I've been involved with D since 2001 (iirc? 0.064 i think?)  I absolutely love your language and the project.   The D Programming Languages deserves more usage and notoriety since it *is* the best programming language available.   To do this, we need as many people working on whatever niches they care about the most.    Can we please delegate some control of the website to someone who's already put a substantial amount of work into making a modern and attractive version (w0rt) of it.

-Shammah

I was talking to the designer I work with at my day job about my working on a new D site, and he actually put together a logo for me over lunch.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/g7htvw3q61nas5z/D-logo.svg

What does everyone think of that? I basically asked, "I'd like something similar to the current logo, but flatter." So that's what I got.

On 2014-07-02 11:56:40 +0000, w0rp said:

> I was talking to the designer I work with at my day job about my working on a new D site, and he actually put together a logo for me over lunch.
> 
> http://www.mediafire.com/download/g7htvw3q61nas5z/D-logo.svg
> 
> What does everyone think of that? I basically asked, "I'd like something similar to the current logo, but flatter." So that's what I got.

I think it looks awesome and would fit the new dlang.org design.  Keep up the good work.

-Shammah

On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 at 11:56:43 UTC, w0rp wrote:
> What does everyone think of that? I basically asked, "I'd like something similar to the current logo, but flatter." So that's what I got.

I guess it is possible to make the horizon circular, but it seems a bit unbalanced, like it needs more space above and below since the D shape is more vertical now. I think I like the original D shape a bit better, with rounded corners and a bit prolonged, gives a hint of horizontal motion.

If you blend the logo into the page layout you can make the horizon be the divisor between the left side bar and the top bar. E.g. the logo space is what you get from intersecting the left bar with the top bar.

Am 02.07.2014 12:23, schrieb "Ola Fosheim Grøstad" <ola.fosheim.grostad+dlang@gmail.com>":
> On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 at 08:59:06 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:
>> [Incidentally, I found the copyright notice that goes with the current
>> logo at the bottom of this page: http://media.sukimashita.com/d/ (the
>> gallery of designs that the current logo was chosen from)]
>
> Yeah:
> «ALL FREE TO USE. ONLY SELLING THESE IMAGES IS PROHIBITED.»
>
> I guess that is good enough for adapting the logo to flat shading and a
> new web design with minor visual tweaks. The original author appears to
> be Martin Szulecki, so he can probably be reached by e-mail.

Although an interesting question would be, if for example the logo is allowed to be sold as part of a t-shirt. If not, that would be a pretty big deal. It would be much better to have a standard license with proper legal terminology. So contacting the author seems to be an imperative if this is the design to base the brand upon.

On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 at 11:56:43 UTC, w0rp wrote:
> I was talking to the designer I work with at my day job about my working on a new D site, and he actually put together a logo for me over lunch.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/download/g7htvw3q61nas5z/D-logo.svg
>
> What does everyone think of that? I basically asked, "I'd like something similar to the current logo, but flatter." So that's what I got.

I still think a wider counter for the "D" looks better.  I'm honestly curious about the choice of shortening the radius of the horizon arc; is there rationale there or is it just a gut thing?  I like what he did with the gradient weighting, though. Subtle, but effective.

-Wyatt

On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 at 13:05:31 UTC, Sönke Ludwig wrote:
> Although an interesting question would be, if for example the logo is allowed to be sold as part of a t-shirt. If not, that would be a pretty big deal.

Yeah, or use it on a book cover… An even bigger deal.

On Wednesday, 2 July 2014 at 11:56:43 UTC, w0rp wrote:
> I was talking to the designer I work with at my day job about my working on a new D site, and he actually put together a logo for me over lunch.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/download/g7htvw3q61nas5z/D-logo.svg
>
> What does everyone think of that? I basically asked, "I'd like something similar to the current logo, but flatter." So that's what I got.

Looks like the current logo but flatter! :)

Matheus.