On Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 22:42:16 UTC, Doigt wrote:
> Firefox is getting better, not worse. That's strictly your opinion.

Firefox has a number of major problems:

* They invested in Rust instead of D.

* Its engine is not particularly embeddable. This means you're at the mercy of Mozilla's bad UI decisions. Something I was able to fix with the chromium engines with a simple

        url.addEventListener((DoubleClickEvent ev) {
                url.selectAll();
                ev.preventDefault();
        });

Has no solution for Firefox. This was a major strategic mistake on Mozilla's part: they could have been the base of countless tools and applications, but they ceded all this ground to their competition.

* They don't even support "app mode", to open one page in a window with its own icon and minimal ui, which could be a potential substitute for using its engine as an API; you can spin up a local web server and spawn an instance of the browser to display things. But firefox has very little support for this use case.

* The firefox engine has poor platform integration out of the box. Chrome's engine, on the other hand, works actually quite well in varied uses across platforms without requiring much custom code (they do break the X spec in places, but you can kinda tame that, you can see this in the source of the minigui_addons.webview module). Even if you could embed the firefox, it is possible it wouldn't work on your system anyway!


It is a pity that Mozilla didn't take this use more seriously, but they didn't...

On Tuesday, 19 December 2023 at 23:40:48 UTC, Antonio wrote:
> It was not the first neither the last problem that a new version of chrome caused to our company

Oh, I'm old enough to remember the Chrome auto-update that broke standard HTML links! It was such a pain supporting it in the first few years, while IE and Firefox were both working pretty well at the time.

But, like I just said in the other post, Firefox has near-zero support for being embedded in other applications. If you know of a way that we could reasonably use from D, let me know, but the only time I've seen an embedded Gecko is actually in the Wine project... and this had no other way to access it that I could find.

> I remember when reported a bug about canvas/images memory leak (Our software processed hundred of images directly on web)... we find the solution to assigning 0 to width/height... but the chromium bug remained YEARS until it was solved.

Mozilla has closed *dozens* of bugs that affect me directly as WONTFIX, including fairly simple to fix regressions. That's why I can't use it anymore.

> Adam, I really heated Chrome... and I simply don't tolerate each new browser based on chromium.

If you wanna work on my other engine to bring it up to spec, feel free lol, but the screenshots speak to the functionality gap...

On Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 06:29:30 UTC, Hors wrote:
> Rust is better choice than D if you have to run code from untrusted resources (html, javascript, webassembly...) it's safer, plus faster.

[citation needed]

On Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 08:17:20 UTC, Anonymouse wrote:
> On Wednesday, 20 December 2023 at 06:29:30 UTC, Hors wrote:
>> Rust is better choice than D if you have to run code from untrusted resources (html, javascript, webassembly...) it's safer, plus faster.
>
> [citation needed]

I would add *sarcasm* sign :)