On Sunday, 27 August 2017 at 19:29:03 UTC, Ryion wrote:
> On Sunday, 27 August 2017 at 18:51:00 UTC, Moritz Maxeiner wrote:
>> Thanks, but as I pointed out, the website's design is of no interest to me personally.
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>> As I said, you aren't going to change my interests (and I'm reasonable convinced you won't change other peoples', either).
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>> Add my voice to that corpus - I honestly don't care what the website looks like.
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> This whole topic is about improving the website. The fact that you are already a well versed D programmer that sees no usefulness in actually improving the readability of the site is irrelevant.

That's a strawmen, since I didn't voice an opinion about it's usefulness. I said it doesn't interest me; what *does* interest me is trying to ensure that peoples' ideas don't have to die off in the forum, i.e. that they know (if they have the time and interest) what to do in order for them to be incorporated.

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> The constant repeating that it does not interest you, simply discourages people.

If you recall my initial post, all I did was point out the places to send a PR to if he wants the changes to be incorporated. W.r.t. expressing my disinterest in the particulars of the topic: I've only done so when I judged him to attempt to engage me about them in a way where just not replying would've been rude.

> Same with pointing out that ( you think ) he can not change other people his minds.

My (apparently too implicit) point was that he shouldn't have to care about what I, or others, are interested in. If he cares about it and has the time and will to do it (which so far I've not seen a contrary statement of his to), the way to go is to make a PR, because that'll (eventually) yield an official reaction by the appropriate people.

> I personally think he is right and the site is not information friendly. Lots of content does not mean its useful if that content is badly presented.

You don't seem to want me to express my (dis)interest in the particulars of the topic, yet you respond to me in a way that's designed to elicit that response from me. I find that confusing.

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> If somebody is spending a lot of time simply writing issues that they think can be improved, let them try. Even if it dies later in the topic.

Why do you imply that I'm trying to stop someone?

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> If this topic did not exist, i will not have found out that Adam has a experimental library, that hands over heels wins compared to the current massive text blob. Even if its a few versions behind, its way more clean and easy to use the what is now on the website.
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> http://dpldocs.info/experimental-docs/std.html
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> So at minimum one positive thing came from the topic.

That's why one of my earlier responses contained

>> Starting and/or participating in discussions can be valuable to the community

On Sunday, 27 August 2017 at 20:13:35 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
> Following what you said, I've just looked at both Github accounts, and I can clearly see that it's much above my skill set to merge the content of both D-based websites so that the main page of the Dlang website looks exactly like what I want.

Fair enough, in that case could you open an enhancement request over at [1], so it doesn't get lost?

[1] https://issues.dlang.org/

On 08/27/2017 10:13 PM, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
> I still do not understand why they have made so many separated Github account for just one website. Just using sub folders on the same Github account would have been a much simpler solution, so that it's easy to make changes to the website on a more global scale...

The beauty of decentralized, volunteer-driven development.

forum.dlang.org, code.dlang.org, and tour.dlang.org started as independent projects by different authors. They were later integrated into dlang.org, but so far they remain as separate projects, using different technology, having their own maintainers, etc.

I agree that dealing with multiple repositories can be annoying. But people have to prioritize what they work on, and merging everything into one is probably not high on the list. For the people who maintain it, it works reasonably well as it is.

On Sunday, 27 August 2017 at 20:31:03 UTC, Moritz Maxeiner wrote:
> On Sunday, 27 August 2017 at 20:13:35 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
>> Following what you said, I've just looked at both Github accounts, and I can clearly see that it's much above my skill set to merge the content of both D-based websites so that the main page of the Dlang website looks exactly like what I want.
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> Fair enough, in that case could you open an enhancement request over at [1], so it doesn't get lost?
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> [1] https://issues.dlang.org/

Done !

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17789

Thanks for the advice :)

On Sunday, 27 August 2017 at 23:22:06 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
> Done !
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> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17789
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> Thanks for the advice :)

Also you could fork the site (main page), make changes and share result. Then will be possible see changes, how it'll look "live". And people can vote - like/dislike. For example, https://forum.dlang.org/thread/odbtivxmrggaywcbebqx@forum.dlang.org

On Monday, 28 August 2017 at 02:49:30 UTC, Dmitry wrote:
> On Sunday, 27 August 2017 at 23:22:06 UTC, Ecstatic Coder wrote:
>> Done !
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>> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17789
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>> Thanks for the advice :)
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> Also you could fork the site (main page), make changes and share result. Then will be possible see changes, how it'll look "live". And people can vote - like/dislike. For example, https://forum.dlang.org/thread/odbtivxmrggaywcbebqx@forum.dlang.org

I like the idea, but it's too complicated for my current skills.

What I can actually do without problem is a graphical mock up of the landing page, as that's something I'm already used to do to get a website design validation.