On 2 January 2015 at 15:12, pops via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>   Regarding debuggers: keep in mind, windows debuggers
> are light years ahead of GDB and friends.
>
>   What Linux people refer to as a debugger looks like a stone age
> tool to me.

I'm pretty sure this is almost entirely a problem with typical linux IDE's UIs. Most of them are just pretty thin, inflexible, or awkward. I think GDB actually has more features than VC's debugger(?). At least, they should be basically the same with a sufficient UI.

GDB actually knows about D thanks to a bunch of work Iain has done...
I don't think we're gonna get that from MS any time soon.
I'm hoping LLDB will support coff+pdb in time, only then do I imagine
we'll have a hope at robust debugging of D code in windows.

On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 01:17:32 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 12:55:28 +0000
> Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
>> Just because you contribute to D it doesn't give you any authority to get angry at users or:
> that's really great. Dicebot wrote a long text explaining that he is
> not a D dev team representative, he doesn't want to be one and he want
> his commit right to be taken away so others will stop seeing him as
> "official person", and then you demand from him to behave like
> "official person".

He did not demand that dicebot "act like an official representative"

He said that just because he contributes that does not give him the authority to "act like an official representative"

Actually almost the polar opposite of what you think he said.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 10:36:14 +0000
dajones via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 01:17:32 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 12:55:28 +0000
> > Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Just because you contribute to D it doesn't give you any authority to get angry at users or:
> > that's really great. Dicebot wrote a long text explaining that
> > he is
> > not a D dev team representative, he doesn't want to be one and
> > he want
> > his commit right to be taken away so others will stop seeing
> > him as
> > "official person", and then you demand from him to behave like
> > "official person".
> 
> He did not demand that dicebot "act like an official representative"
> 
> He said that just because he contributes that does not give him the authority to "act like an official representative"
> 
> Actually almost the polar opposite of what you think he said.

show me where Dicebot did, please.

On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 10:44:44 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 10:36:14 +0000
> dajones via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 01:17:32 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> > On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 12:55:28 +0000
>> > Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just because you contribute to D it doesn't give you any authority to get angry at users or:
>> > that's really great. Dicebot wrote a long text explaining that he is
>> > not a D dev team representative, he doesn't want to be one and he want
>> > his commit right to be taken away so others will stop seeing him as
>> > "official person", and then you demand from him to behave like
>> > "official person".
>> 
>> He did not demand that dicebot "act like an official representative"
>> 
>> He said that just because he contributes that does not give him the authority to "act like an official representative"
>> 
>> Actually almost the polar opposite of what you think he said.
>
> show me where Dicebot did, please.

I didnt claim to agree with him, I just pointed out that you completely misconstrued what he said.

A civil response would have been, "oops thank you for pointing that out".

But instead you look for some means of attack. That's ok, I understand, you and diceboot are like a couple of young cocks who's hackles fly up at the slightest sniff of a challenge. And you cant back down because your honour is at stake!

Jeez I feel old.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +0000
dajones via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:

> Jeez I feel old.
then you'd better don't know how old i am...

On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 13:46:00 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +0000
> dajones via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
>> Jeez I feel old.
> then you'd better don't know how old i am...

There I was trying to excuse you for being full of youthful zeal and you go and spoil it by admitting you're a curmudgeonly old cnut.

On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 16:35:17 UTC, dajones wrote:
> On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 13:46:00 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +0000
>> dajones via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeez I feel old.
>> then you'd better don't know how old i am...
>
> There I was trying to excuse you for being full of youthful zeal and you go and spoil it by admitting you're a curmudgeonly old cnut.

Well said. ketmar is the most guilty for degrading the quality of
dialogue in this group.

Reading this thread, one gets the impression that Dconf 2015 is better off taking place in an octagon-shaped cage than a university lecture hall...

On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 18:45:49 +0000
anonymous via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 16:35:17 UTC, dajones wrote:
> > On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 13:46:00 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> >> On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +0000
> >> dajones via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jeez I feel old.
> >> then you'd better don't know how old i am...
> >
> > There I was trying to excuse you for being full of youthful zeal and you go and spoil it by admitting you're a curmudgeonly old cnut.
> 
> Well said. ketmar is the most guilty for degrading the quality of dialogue in this group.

my pleasure. glad you enjoyed it.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 16:35:15 +0000
dajones via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 2 January 2015 at 13:46:00 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> > On Fri, 02 Jan 2015 13:29:45 +0000
> > dajones via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jeez I feel old.
> > then you'd better don't know how old i am...
> 
> There I was trying to excuse you for being full of youthful zeal and you go and spoil it by admitting you're a curmudgeonly old cnut.

i can't remember where i was asking for your excuses.