On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 01:32:45 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 7/17/15 8:20 PM, Mike wrote:
>> On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 20:54:33 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>
>>> Should just be "Aliases".
>>
>> I'd be happy to do the pull request if you wish.
>
> Let's get the "+1"s on this - please reply. I'm fine with Aliases with an extra umph that the BDFL favors it. -- Andrei

No it makes any oral discussion about it impossible to understand, as well as a good chunk of the spec.

On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 02:36:59 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote:
> On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 01:35:03 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 20:54:33 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>>>
>>> Should just be "Aliases"....
>>
>> Then you have the confusion about whether you're talking about the replacement of TypeTuple or just aliases in general - especially if verbal conversation. AliasSeq won't be confused with anything.
>>
>> - Jonathan M Davis
>
> I cannot think of one sentence that doesn't disambiguate.

Try changing the doc using it. Yes, if you think about it hard enough, you'll be able to figure out which is which, but overall, that makes the thing much harder ot read.

On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 20:59:41 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 01:54:31PM -0700, Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> On 7/7/2015 2:16 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> >So I thought we were supposed to replace bad names with good names. Template arguments are indexable, so "sequence" doesn't quite apply.
>> >
>> >What happened? Why are we replacing a crappy term with another crappy term?
>> 
>> Should just be "Aliases". I recall that my naming of "setExt()" was universally panned for using an abbreviation. "Aliases" doesn't carry any baggage about how it might be accessed.
>
> Wow, the bikeshedding truly never ends!
>
>
> T

+1 , can we stop inserting coins in that machine every time it reach some kind of stable point (especially when this stable point is the same twice in a row ?)

On Friday, 17 July 2015 at 21:02:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 7/15/2015 1:13 AM, Paolo Invernizzi wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 15 July 2015 at 07:50:46 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>>> Good to see another bad name merged in master ^_^
>>
>> Yep, same feeling here....
>
> Does this mean that complaining about the names I pick is going to die down? :-)

I'm +1 for Aliases!

--
Paolo

On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 01:05:20 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> Here is a survey of all suggested names, please vote so we can end this with the best name...
>
> http://goo.gl/forms/qls1ZGDCho

Small update, as of right now, there has been 45 responses to the survey, with AliasTuple in the lead.

Top 3 average rankings:
AliasTuple   3.16
Aliases      2.82
AliasList    2.76

On Monday, 20 July 2015 at 08:18:46 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 01:05:20 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>> Here is a survey of all suggested names, please vote so we can end this with the best name...
>>
>> http://goo.gl/forms/qls1ZGDCho
>
> Small update, as of right now, there has been 45 responses to the survey, with AliasTuple in the lead.
>
> Top 3 average rankings:
> AliasTuple   3.16
> Aliases      2.82
> AliasList    2.76

This is an excellent approach to bike-shedding. Is it appropriate now to ask people who object to AliasTuple to put those objections forward (specific problems with AliasTuple rather than 'my name is better) and otherwise go forward with the term?

On 7/20/15 4:18 AM, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 01:05:20 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>> Here is a survey of all suggested names, please vote so we can end
>> this with the best name...
>>
>> http://goo.gl/forms/qls1ZGDCho
>
> Small update, as of right now, there has been 45 responses to the
> survey, with AliasTuple in the lead.
>
> Top 3 average rankings:
> AliasTuple   3.16
> Aliases      2.82
> AliasList    2.76

Heh, interesting. (I didn't vote in order to avoid influencing things, not that 1/45.0 matters that much.)

Where is AliasSeq?


Andrei

On Monday, 20 July 2015 at 13:09:06 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 7/20/15 4:18 AM, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>> On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 01:05:20 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>>> Here is a survey of all suggested names, please vote so we can end
>>> this with the best name...
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/forms/qls1ZGDCho
>>
>> Small update, as of right now, there has been 45 responses to the
>> survey, with AliasTuple in the lead.
>>
>> Top 3 average rankings:
>> AliasTuple   3.16
>> Aliases      2.82
>> AliasList    2.76
>
> Heh, interesting. (I didn't vote in order to avoid influencing things, not that 1/45.0 matters that much.)
>
> Where is AliasSeq?
>
>
> Andrei

It's currently in 5th place on 2.38.

Full stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sFLQAYnI2Xx5CPrf9KXbuxUfdHPewyo67Y1Sb0Z8p5M/pubchart?oid=2030278607&format=interactive

On Monday, 20 July 2015 at 13:09:06 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 7/20/15 4:18 AM, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>> On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 01:05:20 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>>> Here is a survey of all suggested names, please vote so we can end
>>> this with the best name...
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/forms/qls1ZGDCho
>>
>> Small update, as of right now, there has been 45 responses to the
>> survey, with AliasTuple in the lead.
>>
>> Top 3 average rankings:
>> AliasTuple   3.16
>> Aliases      2.82
>> AliasList    2.76
>
> Heh, interesting. (I didn't vote in order to avoid influencing things, not that 1/45.0 matters that much.)
>
> Where is AliasSeq?
>
>
> Andrei

2.38

You can see all the current results here, hover over a bar to see exact numbers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sFLQAYnI2Xx5CPrf9KXbuxUfdHPewyo67Y1Sb0Z8p5M/pubchart?oid=2030278607&format=interactive

On Monday, 20 July 2015 at 08:18:46 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> On Saturday, 18 July 2015 at 01:05:20 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>> Here is a survey of all suggested names, please vote so we can end this with the best name...
>>
>> http://goo.gl/forms/qls1ZGDCho
>
> Small update, as of right now, there has been 45 responses to the survey, with AliasTuple in the lead.
>
> Top 3 average rankings:
> AliasTuple   3.16
> Aliases      2.82
> AliasList    2.76

Whatever it means, the answers there don't seem to jive with the thread discussing it. In particular, AliasTuple probably has the strongest reaction against it out of any of the choices which have been seriously considered, based principly on all of the problems that we've had in explaining to people what on earth a TypeTuple is. The fact that Tuple is in the name has caused quite a few problems. So, seeing it on the top is a bit surprising. Though I wonder how many of the participants in the thread have responded to that, since many seem to just be sick of the discussion. More folks have responded to the survey though than have participated in the thread though.

- Jonathan M Davis