March 04, 2020
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 03:54:51 UTC, SrMordred wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 01:47:50 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 01:24:17 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 00:59:44 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>
>>> What does this have to do with the D language?
>>
>> nothing but, admitting you've verified the problem, just be better than that. Dont fall in the trap of what is mainstream or not. The bug I describe is part of the mainstream. YT is supposed to work with the most clever guys on the earth you see, they can hire them. But still, they cant manage an association list.
>
> I heard and see enough from Google/Face/large companies to believe that they have everything but the clever guys.

One problem is also maybe a kind of haughty attitude towards bugs.
You see "the ignoble task" that nody wants to do because everybody feels that he's got more value than that.

Side note: I'm sorry to see that the topic was discussed. I even expected it to be removed when I've clicked on dlang.org today to read the news.
March 04, 2020
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 21:41:20 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> I have a 24/7 VPS that serves as an intermediate MX that forwards mail to my home PC server.  The latter I usually leave running, but on the occasion it goes down, the VPS server retains the mails and delivers them when I come back up. No problem with reliability there.

I'm interesting in this. Do you mind to share you VPS service name?

Matheus.
March 04, 2020
On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 21:29:11 UTC, sarn wrote:
> Reliability is a more important problem.  Email's pretty robust thanks to mail queues and retries, so a mailserver doesn't need to be up 24/7, but the fact is if it goes down it stays down until you fix it.  It's rare but can happen at a bad time.  I pay an uptime service to alert me if my mailserver goes down (same as everything else I run).

Do you mind to share your VPS service name?

Matheus.


March 04, 2020
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 08:01:53PM +0000, matheus via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 21:41:20 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > I have a 24/7 VPS that serves as an intermediate MX that forwards mail to my home PC server.  The latter I usually leave running, but on the occasion it goes down, the VPS server retains the mails and delivers them when I come back up. No problem with reliability there.
> 
> I'm interesting in this. Do you mind to share you VPS service name?
[...]

johncompanies.com

They have a discount if you contribute to an open source project. Keep in mind that the VPS packages they offer are geared towards servers, so if the only thing you're going to be using it for is mail, it might be overkill (and likely too pricey). But it's worthwhile if you'll be running other things on it besides just a mailserver.


T

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March 05, 2020
On Wednesday, 4 March 2020 at 20:41:25 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 08:01:53PM +0000, matheus via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 21:41:20 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>> > I have a 24/7 VPS that serves as an intermediate MX that forwards mail to my home PC server.  The latter I usually leave running, but on the occasion it goes down, the VPS server retains the mails and delivers them when I come back up. No problem with reliability there.
>> 
>> I'm interesting in this. Do you mind to share you VPS service name?
> [...]
>
> johncompanies.com
>
> They have a discount if you contribute to an open source project. Keep in mind that the VPS packages they offer are geared towards servers, so if the only thing you're going to be using it for is mail, it might be overkill (and likely too pricey). But it's worthwhile if you'll be running other things on it besides just a mailserver.

I'll take a look about this and see if I can do it myself. :)

Thank you very much for all the info.

Matheus.
March 05, 2020
On Wednesday, 4 March 2020 at 19:40:17 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 03:54:51 UTC, SrMordred wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 01:47:50 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 01:24:17 UTC, IGotD- wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 00:59:44 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> What does this have to do with the D language?
>>>
>>> nothing but, admitting you've verified the problem, just be better than that. Dont fall in the trap of what is mainstream or not. The bug I describe is part of the mainstream. YT is supposed to work with the most clever guys on the earth you see, they can hire them. But still, they cant manage an association list.
>>
>> I heard and see enough from Google/Face/large companies to believe that they have everything but the clever guys.
>
> One problem is also maybe a kind of haughty attitude towards bugs.
> You see "the ignoble task" that nody wants to do because everybody feels that he's got more value than that.
>
> Side note: I'm sorry to see that the topic was discussed. I even expected it to be removed when I've clicked on dlang.org today to read the news.

Seriously, I thought that at some point there would be a claiming such as

"we, at dee lang dot org, dont know who is this Basile, pretendind that google engineers are bad. We dont know this guy. Even if he bashes you after you thought we are not good enough for the GSOC".
March 05, 2020
On 3/5/20 2:30 PM, Basile B. wrote:
...

This is the most inappropriate thing I've ever read on this forum. And that's saying something, as most people who have been here a long time have seen a lot.

Please stop.

-Steve
March 05, 2020
On Wednesday, 4 March 2020 at 20:02:58 UTC, matheus wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 March 2020 at 21:29:11 UTC, sarn wrote:
>> Reliability is a more important problem.  Email's pretty robust thanks to mail queues and retries, so a mailserver doesn't need to be up 24/7, but the fact is if it goes down it stays down until you fix it.  It's rare but can happen at a bad time.  I pay an uptime service to alert me if my mailserver goes down (same as everything else I run).
>
> Do you mind to share your VPS service name?
>
> Matheus.

The server's on Linode.
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