June 09, 2002
This newsgroup would be a great source of material for the magazine.

"Matthew Wilson" <dmd@synesis.com.au> wrote in message news:adsub0$cuh$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> - monitoring the news-group for useful items for FAQ, and for people whom you think would be able to take a news-group item to a magazine tip with a little additional effort



June 09, 2002
>
> We're getting lot's of volunteers. This may be easier than I thought. :)
>

Hi.
I'd also like to volunteer, but I don't know what I could considering that I
don't really have lots of spare time (that's why I've stopped fooling around
with D).
I'm not good at web managing, but I have a website
(http://carlos3.netfirms.com). Besides, I don't know how good I could be
considering my english isn't so deep (spanish is my native language). I just
got an idea! Maybe, when the whole project is set up, you could ask us
(those who like D but have a different native language) to translate "The D
Journal" to other languages. Maybe.
I don't know how much I could help with the articles considering that I
often have more doubts than answers. If you want to know a little background
about me, then I know well QB, some VB (I've made some interesting stuff),
C/C++ (pretty much ok), Java (learning), Delphi (learning), Euphoria (not
much), D (wanna know more!).
Again, I want to help, but you should give me some advice according to the
information I've given.


June 09, 2002
Maybe someone has already mentioned these ideas already. I like what they did is some of the VB (now VS) mags that had small tips and tricks spread across the book. Of coarse there should also be some central place for T&T some they can be easly found. Also (as most mags have) a Q&A section (but that's what this newsgroups for). And how about, a best of newsgroup answers section.

I'd like to contribute, but at the moment at least I don't have time.

My experiance is amateurish. I've been programming since I was 7 for about 14 years. I started using GW-BASIC, but progressed though to pascal, VB, ADA, C, Java, C++. At the moment I'm a third year doing computer science. But don't let that get you down, as I'm basicly just doing It to get the degree and pick up some industrual standards (which arn't taught in books). I'm in the top 5% of my uni.

Joel Anderson

"Matthew Wilson" <matthewatd@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ads2mo$26r4$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Walter
>
> What I was thinking of was a fully-fledged magazine, probably bi-monthly, which had the following features:
>
> A notes section (very small tips, one-liners) - 4-8 per issue
> A tips section (400-800 words) - 3-5 per issue
> An articles section (2000-4000 words) 2-3 per issue
> A "Word from Walter" column
> An FAQ column, whereby readers questions would be answered by the D
experts
> Two more columns that would alternate (at a rate as deemed by the separate subject areas and the number of contributors) between a number of major D subject areas. Areas would include Windows development, realtime, other platforms, performance, etc.
>
> To do this we would need the following resources
>
> 1 or 2 people to do the web-design & graphics & layout the articles at least 3 (preferably 5 or 6) technical editors for reviewing &
validating
> submissions, as well as providing answers to the FAQ column
> 1 or 2 supervising editors, arbitrating between article ideas, checking
> readability etc.
> Walter
> Someone to run the FAQ column (possibly including taking the most worthy
> items from the news group in times of Q drought)
>
> I guess once we have it up and running we _could_ get advertising and all that evil nonsense if there was a need, but I would have thought with a
few
> committed volunteers we could manage quite nicely.
>
> If there is enough interest I am sure we could make this into a valuable resource, for the promulgation of D to the thirsty folks who are currently starting to drink the sand ( === .NET :)
>
> So, any interest? Please shout up if you think it's (i) a good idea, (ii)
a
> bad idea; (iii) you would like to volunteer for one of the roles. Also, if you think there are other features and/or roles, please speak up.
>
> I have pre-emptively registered djournal.net and thedjournal.com
> (djournal.com is taken) in case we have interest. (I can cancel these in
the
> next 72 hours if everyone thinks it is a bad idea, but it's not, is it ... ??? ;)
>
> Matthew
>
>
> "Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:adqq49$tpq$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > I've thought about doing a web page with the "best of" from this
> newsgroup,
> > but I don't have the time to do it. Do you want to?
> >
> > "Matthew Wilson" <mwilson@nextgengaming.com> wrote in message news:adpgtm$2ja6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > > Has anyone thought of our starting a "D journal", presumably initially
> as
> > a
> > > web-site?
> > >
> > > Does anyone think this is worth pursuing, or is it a little premature? Perhaps waiting until ver 1 is released?
> > >
> > > Thought ... ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


June 09, 2002
Just to give an update. I've had a lot of responses already, but most people are claiming (along with myself) to not being sufficiently qualified to be a tech-editor. I think we may want to consider being a bit less formal here, and perhaps one way would be to solicit for tech-editors on a case-by-case basis, until we build up a regular bunch.

btw, can everyone who volunteers for any kind of duty also email me via dmd@synesis.com.au.

Thanks

Matthew


"Matthew Wilson" <mwilson@nextgengaming.com> wrote in message news:adpgtm$2ja6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Has anyone thought of our starting a "D journal", presumably initially as
a
> web-site?
>
> Does anyone think this is worth pursuing, or is it a little premature? Perhaps waiting until ver 1 is released?
>
> Thought ... ?
>
>


June 10, 2002
In article <adurjv$28cj$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Matthew Wilson says...
>
>Just to give an update. I've had a lot of responses already, but most people are claiming (along with myself) to not being sufficiently qualified to be a tech-editor. I think we may want to consider being a bit less formal here, and perhaps one way would be to solicit for tech-editors on a case-by-case basis, until we build up a regular bunch.

I will also volunteer to write articles.  When I think of something interesting,

I will add it to my topics list.

I  volunteer as a tech-editor.  There are probably only two or three people in the Universe qualified as tech-editors for Bright D.  I prefer to have Walter

working on the compiler and language.  I am NOT an expert on Bright D. However, I know a lot of languages well enough to make really ugly mistakes in all of them, but I am willing to look at and evaluate whatever I get.

>
>btw, can everyone who volunteers for any kind of duty also email me via dmd@synesis.com.au.

Will do.

>
>Thanks
>
>Matthew
>
>
>"Matthew Wilson" <mwilson@nextgengaming.com> wrote in message news:adpgtm$2ja6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> Has anyone thought of our starting a "D journal", presumably initially as
>a
>> web-site?
>>
>> Does anyone think this is worth pursuing, or is it a little premature? Perhaps waiting until ver 1 is released?
>>
>> Thought ... ?
>>
>>
>
>

Andy Walker
June 10, 2002
> Don't kill yourself to get something immediate, as we're still in the process of garnering enough support to get this baby off the ground.
Early
> signs are encouraging though.

I'm still alive, so I attached a very simple mockup of what the journal might look like...

Alix Pexton...

June 10, 2002
Alix Pexton wrote:
>>Don't kill yourself to get something immediate, as we're still in the
>>process of garnering enough support to get this baby off the ground.
> 
> Early
> 
>>signs are encouraging though.
> 
> 
> I'm still alive, so I attached a very simple mockup of what the journal
> might look like...
> 
> Alix Pexton...

just a suggestion.  Investigate using this:  www.krysalis.org/centipede

It would provide you with a convienient framework for writing the content in XML and seperating the style/html from the action content.
The output can statically generate in HTML.

-Andy

June 10, 2002
>
> I'm still alive, so I attached a very simple mockup of what the journal might look like...
>
> Alix Pexton...
>

I like it. IMHO, I would prefer the Code section not to be inside a box.


June 10, 2002
> just a suggestion.  Investigate using this:  www.krysalis.org/centipede
> 
> It would provide you with a convienient framework for writing the content in XML and seperating the style/html from the action content. The output can statically generate in HTML.

I have a plan, that involves writing server scripts that read .rdf files to generate each issue, and also having old issues in zip archives... I once did something similar in my university days, all the pages were generated dynamically from simple shell scripts...

When we know what kind of server the journal will be running on we can make decisions about how content will be stored, I'm a great advocate of XML, I use it all the time (I'm currently working on a DOM implementation in D), so we'll see...

Keep the comments flowing...

Alix Pexton...
June 10, 2002
> I like it. IMHO, I would prefer the Code section not to be inside a box.

It doesn't have to be in a box, it's just one line of css, but I think that something should be done to make it absolutely clear what is code and what isn't. Most magazines do something to highlight segments of code, no matter how short, ant it does help readability, but then so does the syntax highlighting...

I foresee that the journal will definitely be designed by committee...

Alix Pexton...