Has anyone thought of our starting a "D journal", presumably initially as a web-site?

Does anyone think this is worth pursuing, or is it a little premature? Perhaps waiting until ver 1 is released?

Thought ... ?

I would be very interested in a "D Journal." Of course, I'm only a quasi_novice programmer, and you not be able to contribute much.  But the thought of growing alongside the language intrigues me.

Just a thought!
Andrew

"Matthew Wilson" <mwilson@nextgengaming.com> wrote in message
news:adpgtm$2ja6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
| Has anyone thought of our starting a "D journal", presumably
initially as a
| web-site?
|
| Does anyone think this is worth pursuing, or is it a little
premature?
| Perhaps waiting until ver 1 is released?
|
| Thought ... ?
|
|

I've thought about doing a web page with the "best of" from this newsgroup, but I don't have the time to do it. Do you want to?

"Matthew Wilson" <mwilson@nextgengaming.com> wrote in message news:adpgtm$2ja6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Has anyone thought of our starting a "D journal", presumably initially as
a
> web-site?
>
> Does anyone think this is worth pursuing, or is it a little premature? Perhaps waiting until ver 1 is released?
>
> Thought ... ?
>
>

Walter

What I was thinking of was a fully-fledged magazine, probably bi-monthly, which had the following features:

A notes section (very small tips, one-liners) - 4-8 per issue
A tips section (400-800 words) - 3-5 per issue
An articles section (2000-4000 words) 2-3 per issue
A "Word from Walter" column
An FAQ column, whereby readers questions would be answered by the D experts
Two more columns that would alternate (at a rate as deemed by the separate
subject areas and the number of contributors) between a number of major D
subject areas. Areas would include Windows development, realtime, other
platforms, performance, etc.

To do this we would need the following resources

1 or 2 people to do the web-design & graphics & layout the articles
at least 3 (preferably 5 or 6) technical editors for reviewing & validating
submissions, as well as providing answers to the FAQ column
1 or 2 supervising editors, arbitrating between article ideas, checking
readability etc.
Walter
Someone to run the FAQ column (possibly including taking the most worthy
items from the news group in times of Q drought)

I guess once we have it up and running we _could_ get advertising and all that evil nonsense if there was a need, but I would have thought with a few committed volunteers we could manage quite nicely.

If there is enough interest I am sure we could make this into a valuable resource, for the promulgation of D to the thirsty folks who are currently starting to drink the sand ( === .NET :)

So, any interest? Please shout up if you think it's (i) a good idea, (ii) a
bad idea; (iii) you would like to volunteer for one of the roles. Also, if
you think there are other features and/or roles, please speak up.

I have pre-emptively registered djournal.net and thedjournal.com (djournal.com is taken) in case we have interest. (I can cancel these in the next 72 hours if everyone thinks it is a bad idea, but it's not, is it ... ??? ;)

Matthew


"Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:adqq49$tpq$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I've thought about doing a web page with the "best of" from this
newsgroup,
> but I don't have the time to do it. Do you want to?
>
> "Matthew Wilson" <mwilson@nextgengaming.com> wrote in message news:adpgtm$2ja6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > Has anyone thought of our starting a "D journal", presumably initially
as
> a
> > web-site?
> >
> > Does anyone think this is worth pursuing, or is it a little premature? Perhaps waiting until ver 1 is released?
> >
> > Thought ... ?
> >
> >
>
>

"Matthew Wilson" <matthewatd@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ads2mo$26r4$1@digitaldaemon.com...

> So, any interest? Please shout up if you think it's (i) a good idea, (ii)
a
> bad idea; (iii) you would like to volunteer for one of the roles. Also, if you think there are other features and/or roles, please speak up.

It is a good idea, definitely. I wonder if I could help with anything? FAQ & coding tips, probably.

By the way, one another thing that could be of interest to many people is a D tutorial, or something alike: a tour that would introduce C++ programmers into the world of D, covering new features, important differences, and frequently-made mistakes...

I think it's a great idea!

"Matthew Wilson" <matthewatd@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ads2mo$26r4$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Walter
>
> What I was thinking of was a fully-fledged magazine, probably bi-monthly, which had the following features:
>
> A notes section (very small tips, one-liners) - 4-8 per issue
> A tips section (400-800 words) - 3-5 per issue
> An articles section (2000-4000 words) 2-3 per issue
> A "Word from Walter" column
> An FAQ column, whereby readers questions would be answered by the D
experts
> Two more columns that would alternate (at a rate as deemed by the separate subject areas and the number of contributors) between a number of major D subject areas. Areas would include Windows development, realtime, other platforms, performance, etc.
>
> To do this we would need the following resources
>
> 1 or 2 people to do the web-design & graphics & layout the articles at least 3 (preferably 5 or 6) technical editors for reviewing &
validating
> submissions, as well as providing answers to the FAQ column
> 1 or 2 supervising editors, arbitrating between article ideas, checking
> readability etc.
> Walter
> Someone to run the FAQ column (possibly including taking the most worthy
> items from the news group in times of Q drought)
>
> I guess once we have it up and running we _could_ get advertising and all that evil nonsense if there was a need, but I would have thought with a
few
> committed volunteers we could manage quite nicely.
>
> If there is enough interest I am sure we could make this into a valuable resource, for the promulgation of D to the thirsty folks who are currently starting to drink the sand ( === .NET :)
>
> So, any interest? Please shout up if you think it's (i) a good idea, (ii)
a
> bad idea; (iii) you would like to volunteer for one of the roles. Also, if you think there are other features and/or roles, please speak up.
>
> I have pre-emptively registered djournal.net and thedjournal.com
> (djournal.com is taken) in case we have interest. (I can cancel these in
the
> next 72 hours if everyone thinks it is a bad idea, but it's not, is it ... ??? ;)
>
> Matthew

Yes I like that idea.

[BTW, I had assumed you'd be one of the tech editors, given your apparent (from the news-group) experience.]

We could have a "Moving over to D" column, in which we would through the major languages, and contributors would be able to provide the transitional tips and techniques from their own language. (Blimey that's not clear at all, is it!)

As in

What I mean is that the  column would have

- Nov 2002, "Moving to D from Java"
- Nov 2002, "Moving to D from C++"
- Nov 2002, "Moving to D from Pascal"

etc. etc.



"Pavel Minayev" <evilone@omen.ru> wrote in message news:ads5d7$29l5$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> "Matthew Wilson" <matthewatd@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ads2mo$26r4$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> > So, any interest? Please shout up if you think it's (i) a good idea,
(ii)
> a
> > bad idea; (iii) you would like to volunteer for one of the roles. Also,
if
> > you think there are other features and/or roles, please speak up.
>
> It is a good idea, definitely. I wonder if I could help with anything? FAQ & coding tips, probably.
>
> By the way, one another thing that could be of interest to many people is a D tutorial, or something alike: a tour that would introduce C++ programmers into the world of D, covering new features, important differences, and frequently-made mistakes...
>
>

Cool.

Well everybody, we've had the wink from Pavel and Big W, so I reckon it's a goer.

Whilst I am pretty confident of my own capabilities in C/C++/Java, my exposure to D is, at this point, much less than a lot of you guys, so I don't think I could be an effective tech editor. However, I am more than happy to be a supervising editor, and on this line I have some small experience in editing and writing (masochists please visit http://synesis.com.au/articles.html :).

We certainly need to staff out the other roles before we can think of
proceeding further. Walter, it would seem that you are more qualified than
most
(certainly me, at least) to know which news-group contributors are of a
"very-experienced" level (in so far as one can be, in such a new language),
so I wonder whether you could suggest people who could be the technical
editors. I am assuming Pavel Minayev would be one, along with the other
"experts" in the news-group.

As for all other roles, please let's have more volunteers. People who have experience in writing would be useful, but it's not a prerequisite.

Let's wait and see a few days if we get volunteers (and more content ideas?), before we have to get Walter to wield a coercive e-stick!

Matthew


"Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:ads6dn$2agl$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I think it's a great idea!
>
> "Matthew Wilson" <matthewatd@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ads2mo$26r4$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > Walter
> >
> > What I was thinking of was a fully-fledged magazine, probably
bi-monthly,
> > which had the following features:
> >
> > A notes section (very small tips, one-liners) - 4-8 per issue
> > A tips section (400-800 words) - 3-5 per issue
> > An articles section (2000-4000 words) 2-3 per issue
> > A "Word from Walter" column
> > An FAQ column, whereby readers questions would be answered by the D
> experts
> > Two more columns that would alternate (at a rate as deemed by the
separate
> > subject areas and the number of contributors) between a number of major
D
> > subject areas. Areas would include Windows development, realtime, other platforms, performance, etc.
> >
> > To do this we would need the following resources
> >
> > 1 or 2 people to do the web-design & graphics & layout the articles at least 3 (preferably 5 or 6) technical editors for reviewing &
> validating
> > submissions, as well as providing answers to the FAQ column
> > 1 or 2 supervising editors, arbitrating between article ideas, checking
> > readability etc.
> > Walter
> > Someone to run the FAQ column (possibly including taking the most worthy
> > items from the news group in times of Q drought)
> >
> > I guess once we have it up and running we _could_ get advertising and
all
> > that evil nonsense if there was a need, but I would have thought with a
> few
> > committed volunteers we could manage quite nicely.
> >
> > If there is enough interest I am sure we could make this into a valuable resource, for the promulgation of D to the thirsty folks who are
currently
> > starting to drink the sand ( === .NET :)
> >
> > So, any interest? Please shout up if you think it's (i) a good idea,
(ii)
> a
> > bad idea; (iii) you would like to volunteer for one of the roles. Also,
if
> > you think there are other features and/or roles, please speak up.
> >
> > I have pre-emptively registered djournal.net and thedjournal.com
> > (djournal.com is taken) in case we have interest. (I can cancel these in
> the
> > next 72 hours if everyone thinks it is a bad idea, but it's not, is it
...
> > ??? ;)
> >
> > Matthew
>
>
>

"Matthew Wilson" <dmd@synesis.com.au> wrote in message news:ads8ii$2cqi$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>  Walter, it would seem that you are more qualified than
> most (certainly me, at least) to know which news-group contributors are of
a
> "very-experienced" level (in so far as one can be, in such a new
language),

A far better filter is "whoever is motivated to participate."

Sure, at least for contributions. I was meaning specifically for tech editors, since they will need a fair amount of expertise in order to determine the quality of submissions. Otherwise, it may fall to you ... ;)




"Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:adscrg$2hru$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> "Matthew Wilson" <dmd@synesis.com.au> wrote in message news:ads8ii$2cqi$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> >  Walter, it would seem that you are more qualified than
> > most (certainly me, at least) to know which news-group contributors are
of
> a
> > "very-experienced" level (in so far as one can be, in such a new
> language),
>
> A far better filter is "whoever is motivated to participate."
>
>
>