June 13, 2002
"Patrick Down" <pat@codemoon.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:Xns922B76ED3FFE6patcodemooncom@63.105.9.61...
> "Carlos" <carlos8294@msn.com> wrote in
news:ae6ckl$ubl$1@digitaldaemon.com:
> >
> > automatic translators s*ck (sorry for the word) :(

Automatic translator are FAR to produce sensible output.

> No problem. After playing with it a little more
> I can say it s*cks translating stuff to english too. :)
>
> If you wanted to do a bulk translation of the D manual,
> is it easier to do it all by hand or would it be easier
> to run it through one of these tools, save the results,
> and then fix the translation.

The easiest way I've found is reading an english paper and speaking in
yuor language in a microphone with a speech recognision system.
The result is not so good, you need to revise it anyway, but it's the better
and quicker method I've found.
Once you're used to it, you need very little revision work.

Ciao


June 13, 2002
I realize you are waiting up to the weekend, so I wanted to get my voice out before then.  I'd love to help in any capacity I can, perhaps you'll come up with a positions to fill roster and I could fall into something =)

-b

"Matthew Wilson" <mwilson@nextgengaming.com> wrote in message news:adpgtm$2ja6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Has anyone thought of our starting a "D journal", presumably initially as
a
> web-site?
>
> Does anyone think this is worth pursuing, or is it a little premature? Perhaps waiting until ver 1 is released?
>
> Thought ... ?
>
>


June 13, 2002
> What about a D tip of the week/day in the right hand bottom corner. I
could
> even just be a random one from some database.

Bottom right is fine with me, someone start writing tips...

Alix Pexton...
June 14, 2002
Ok, but how should I present them? In a text file which is read by some CGI script or something? Anyway I'll see what I can do.



"Alix Pexton" <Alix@seven-point-star.co.uk> wrote in message news:01c21305$6716b1e0$90ac7ad5@jpswm...
> > What about a D tip of the week/day in the right hand bottom corner. I
> could
> > even just be a random one from some database.
>
> Bottom right is fine with me, someone start writing tips...
>
> Alix Pexton...


June 14, 2002
We'll get some formatting standards up in the near future, but for now just make it a text file.


"anderson" <anderson@firestar.com.au> wrote in message news:aebi7t$1k0i$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Ok, but how should I present them? In a text file which is read by some
CGI
> script or something? Anyway I'll see what I can do.
>
>
>
> "Alix Pexton" <Alix@seven-point-star.co.uk> wrote in message news:01c21305$6716b1e0$90ac7ad5@jpswm...
> > > What about a D tip of the week/day in the right hand bottom corner. I
> > could
> > > even just be a random one from some database.
> >
> > Bottom right is fine with me, someone start writing tips...
> >
> > Alix Pexton...
>
>


June 14, 2002
I just punched something up in a few minutes (it's less then a page), just to get the brains rolling. I'll add some more when I get some more ideas. And if anyone else has some ideas I'll add them to the list (name included). <H1> Represents headers/Titles and <I> is for the author. I'm sure people can think of much better ones, and I tried to be as broad as I could.


I'd like some really advanced stuff in there as well as very basic.


"Matthew Wilson" <matthew@thedjournal.com> wrote in message news:aebiid$1k6f$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> We'll get some formatting standards up in the near future, but for now
just
> make it a text file.
>
>
> "anderson" <anderson@firestar.com.au> wrote in message news:aebi7t$1k0i$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > Ok, but how should I present them? In a text file which is read by some
> CGI
> > script or something? Anyway I'll see what I can do.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Alix Pexton" <Alix@seven-point-star.co.uk> wrote in message news:01c21305$6716b1e0$90ac7ad5@jpswm...
> > > > What about a D tip of the week/day in the right hand bottom corner.
I
> > > could
> > > > even just be a random one from some database.
> > >
> > > Bottom right is fine with me, someone start writing tips...
> > >
> > > Alix Pexton...
> >
> >
>
>


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June 14, 2002
There was a minor mistake in the last one which I just fix. There are probably other errors. As I said I just did it real quickly because I don't have much time at the moment.


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June 14, 2002
Actually, I should have really tested the code ;)

Next time I post I'll start a new thread.


"anderson" <anderson@firestar.com.au> wrote in message news:aeblur$1ngm$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> There was a minor mistake in the last one which I just fix. There are probably other errors. As I said I just did it real quickly because I
don't
> have much time at the moment.
>
>
>


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June 14, 2002
I like it!
I think tips like these are both helpful and give newbies like me
a gentle look at some of the special features of D. Can't wait
to see what the D Journal turns into! Maybe a bit late in the
game, but I would love to help in any capacity I can, if there
is anything you need help with!
-Jon

June 14, 2002
So long as you drop me a line (editor@thedjournal.com), preferably with a very succinct resume (just your languages / experience level, and any writing experience, if any) and your preferred capacity, I'm sure we'll be able to make use of you.

Thanks for offering

:)

Matthew



"Jonathan Andrew" <jon@ece.arizona.edu> wrote in message news:3D0980DA.4080703@ece.arizona.edu...
> I like it!
> I think tips like these are both helpful and give newbies like me
> a gentle look at some of the special features of D. Can't wait
> to see what the D Journal turns into! Maybe a bit late in the
> game, but I would love to help in any capacity I can, if there
> is anything you need help with!
> -Jon
>