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January 23, 2003 I don't know | ||||
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Hello, I'm coming from RAD land, I don't understand what use has a programing language without a user interface? I understand the dos days, ok , but thats over . I really would appreciate it, most probably I am missing something.. |
January 23, 2003 Re: I don't know | ||||
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Posted in reply to Mike | Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface. ;) Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a particular interface, be it graphical or text. If you need a pretty IDE with drag and drop buttons and forms, D is too early along in development for that yet. Come back in a year or so. Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man Army, he isn't Microsoft; the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come later. Sean "Mike" <Mike_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:b0o34e$27lv$1@digitaldaemon.com... > Hello, I'm coming from RAD land, I don't understand what use has a programing > language without a user interface? I understand the dos days, ok , but thats > over . > I really would appreciate it, most probably I am missing something.. |
January 24, 2003 Re: I don't know | ||||
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Posted in reply to Sean L. Palmer | "Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer@directvinternet.com> wrote in message news:b0og91$2er2$1@digitaldaemon.com... > Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man Army, he isn't Microsoft; the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come later. Writing wysisyg dialog editors is not a core competency of mine :-( so I'm hoping someone else will rise to that challenge! |
January 24, 2003 Re: I don't know | ||||
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Posted in reply to Walter | In article <b0qdai$hlm$3@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says... > > >"Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer@directvinternet.com> wrote in message >news:b0og91$2er2$1@digitaldaemon.com... >> Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man >> Army, he isn't Microsoft; the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come >> later. I hope he wouldn't be like MS with there style > >Writing wysisyg dialog editors is not a core competency of mine :-( so I'm >hoping someone else will rise to that challenge! > > |
January 24, 2003 Re: I don't know | ||||
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Posted in reply to Sean L. Palmer | Sean L. Palmer wrote:
> Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface. ;)
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> Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a particular
> interface, be it graphical or text.
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> If you need a pretty IDE with drag and drop buttons and forms, D is too
> early along in development for that yet. Come back in a year or so.
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> Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man
> Army, he isn't Microsoft; the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come
> later.
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> Sean
Well, i am also originally coming from RAD, but i didn't like it there. I also consider it harmful, not knowing about the usual loopback interfaces and such, which is a classical programming practice applicable to many daily tasks, hidden from RADlers.
It is important to devise a cross-platform GUI library. Then a UI builder can be written. Not the other way around. :>
I might volunteer to write a GUI builder if i appear to like the GUI library, which i shall not design myself, but will keep dropping "wishes" in. :>
For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess what! But i'll be busy for the next 2 weeks and won't actually start until afterwards. I first planned to do it in OCaml, but i think i'll rather stick to D.
-i.
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January 27, 2003 Re: I don't know | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ilya Minkov | In article <b0rvu3$1atm$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says... > >Sean L. Palmer wrote: >> Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface. ;) >> >> Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a particular >> interface, be it graphical or text. >> >> If you need a pretty IDE with drag and drop buttons and forms, D is too >> early along in development for that yet. Come back in a year or so. >> >> Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man >> Army, he isn't Microsoft; the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come >> later. >> >> Sean > >Well, i am also originally coming from RAD, but i didn't like it there. >I also consider it harmful, not knowing about the usual loopback >interfaces and such, which is a classical programming practice >applicable to many daily tasks, hidden from RADlers. > >It is important to devise a cross-platform GUI library. Then a UI builder can be written. Not the other way around. :> > >I might volunteer to write a GUI builder if i appear to like the GUI library, which i shall not design myself, but will keep dropping "wishes" in. :> > >For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess what! I don't have the slightest idea But i'll be busy for the next 2 weeks and won't actually start >until afterwards. I first planned to do it in OCaml, but i think i'll rather stick to D. > >-i. > |
January 27, 2003 Re: I don't know | ||||
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Posted in reply to Mike | Mike wrote:
>>For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess what!
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> I don't have the slightest idea
Convert C headers into D imports, so that existing C libraries and interfaces can be easily used.
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