Thread overview
I don't know
Jan 23, 2003
Mike
Jan 23, 2003
Sean L. Palmer
Jan 24, 2003
Walter
Jan 24, 2003
Mike
Jan 24, 2003
Ilya Minkov
Jan 27, 2003
Mike
Jan 27, 2003
Ilya Minkov
January 23, 2003
Hello, I'm coming from RAD land, I don't understand what use has a programing
language without a user interface? I understand the dos days, ok , but thats
over .
 I really would appreciate it, most probably I am missing something..


January 23, 2003
Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface.  ;)

Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a particular interface, be it graphical or text.

If you need a pretty IDE with drag and drop buttons and forms, D is too early along in development for that yet.  Come back in a year or so.

Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come later.

Sean

"Mike" <Mike_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:b0o34e$27lv$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Hello, I'm coming from RAD land, I don't understand what use has a
programing
> language without a user interface? I understand the dos days, ok , but
thats
> over .
>  I really would appreciate it, most probably I am missing something..


January 24, 2003
"Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer@directvinternet.com> wrote in message news:b0og91$2er2$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come later.

Writing wysisyg dialog editors is not a core competency of mine :-( so I'm hoping someone else will rise to that challenge!


January 24, 2003
In article <b0qdai$hlm$3@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
>
>
>"Sean L.
Palmer" <seanpalmer@directvinternet.com> wrote in
message
>news:b0og91$2er2$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> Every language has to start
somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man
>> Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the
WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come
>> later.
I hope he wouldn't be like MS
with there style
>
>Writing wysisyg dialog editors is not a core competency of
mine :-( so I'm
>hoping someone else will rise to that challenge!
>
>


January 24, 2003
Sean L. Palmer wrote:
> Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface.  ;)
> 
> Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a particular
> interface, be it graphical or text.
> 
> If you need a pretty IDE with drag and drop buttons and forms, D is too
> early along in development for that yet.  Come back in a year or so.
> 
> Every language has to start somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man
> Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come
> later.
> 
> Sean

Well, i am also originally coming from RAD, but i didn't like it there. I also consider it harmful, not knowing about the usual loopback interfaces and such, which is a classical programming practice applicable to many daily tasks, hidden from RADlers.

It is important to devise a cross-platform GUI library. Then a UI builder can be written. Not the other way around. :>

I might volunteer to write a GUI builder if i appear to like the GUI library, which i shall not design myself, but will keep dropping "wishes" in. :>

For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess what! But i'll be busy for the next 2 weeks and won't actually start until afterwards. I first planned to do it in OCaml, but i think i'll rather stick to D.

-i.

January 27, 2003
In article <b0rvu3$1atm$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...
>
>Sean L.
Palmer wrote:
>> Well for starters, you can use it to *write* a user interface.
;)
>> 
>> Also it's not a great idea to tie a language too tightly to a
particular
>> interface, be it graphical or text.
>> 
>> If you need a pretty
IDE with drag and drop buttons and forms, D is too
>> early along in development
for that yet.  Come back in a year or so.
>> 
>> Every language has to start
somewhere, and while Walter is like a one man
>> Army, he isn't Microsoft;  the
WYSIWYG dialog editors will have to come
>> later.
>> 
>> Sean
>
>Well, i am
also originally coming from RAD, but i didn't like it there.
>I also consider
it harmful, not knowing about the usual loopback
>interfaces and such, which is
a classical programming practice
>applicable to many daily tasks, hidden from
RADlers.
>
>It is important to devise a cross-platform GUI library. Then a UI builder can be written. Not the other way around. :>
>
>I might volunteer to write a GUI builder if i appear to like the GUI library, which i shall not design myself, but will keep dropping "wishes" in. :>
>
>For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess what!
I don't have the slightest idea
But i'll be busy for the next 2 weeks and won't actually start
>until afterwards. I first planned to do it in OCaml, but i think i'll rather stick to D.
>
>-i.
>


January 27, 2003
Mike wrote:
>>For now i'm planning to write a "c-hea.d" utility, which does -- guess what! 
> 
> I don't have the slightest idea

Convert C headers into D imports, so that existing C libraries and interfaces can be easily used.